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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    The Republicans created this crisis by removing federal regulation of banks and money-lending insitutions.
    Yeah, one problem with that theory: that never happened. Republicans did not deregulate banks and lenders. If they had, we might not have had this problem.

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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    The whole idea of blaming everyone is pure, unadulterated republicanazi bull****.

    The Republicans created this crisis by removing federal regulation of banks and money-lending insitutions.

    They should NOT be allowed to weasel out of it by blaming "everyone" for the crisis. This is bull****. It's a piss poor attempt by the Republi-thieves to avoid responsibility for a disaster that was created by a REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION to benefit FELLOW REPUBLICAN MONEY LENDERS.

    People really need to pull their heads out of their asses and take a breath of fresh air.
    Wrong.

    Try Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. They were in the front of the "lending discrimination" threats that to the relaxed lending requirements.

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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

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    Poll: Bush still blamed for economy

    CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Poll: Bush still blamed for economy - Blogs from CNN.com



    I agree with the 10% that blames all of them.
    The way I see it, both parties are complicit. Bush ran the economy into the ground, and now Obama is burying what's left of it.
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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The way I see it, both parties are complicit. Bush ran the economy into the ground, and now Obama is burying what's left of it.
    Agreed. The constant manipulation by both parties, the cronyism, the "corporatism", the bailouts, the greed... and of course the constant demands of the American people to "do something" to benefit us (the pork) all adds up to the situation we're in now.
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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Yeah, one problem with that theory: that never happened. Republicans did not deregulate banks and lenders. If they had, we might not have had this problem.
    Wrong.

    That is more republican rhetoric. It did happen. Accept it an move on.

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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Wrong.

    Try Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. They were in the front of the "lending discrimination" threats that to the relaxed lending requirements.
    Yet more republican dodge tactics.

    You fail sir. The republicans in the Bush Administration caused this issue. Please cease making excuses for Republi-criminals. (Yes, I realize the Liberals are no better; however, this situation occurred during a REPUBLICAN administration when there was a REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IS BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE)

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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Agreed. The constant manipulation by both parties, the cronyism, the "corporatism", the bailouts, the greed... and of course the constant demands of the American people to "do something" to benefit us (the pork) all adds up to the situation we're in now.
    I think another problem is that Americans are only willing to see part of it or put more blame to the other side. You can even see it in this thread. Democrats are more to blame, no Republicans. NO they both are equal to blame because they both are equally screwing us all. The sooner people can get over their hatred of the other party the sooner we can fix the economy and everything else.

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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Wrong.

    That is more republican rhetoric. It did happen. Accept it an move on.
    So, do you have any evidence, or are you just spewing unbacked rhetoric as usual?

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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    I think another problem is that Americans are only willing to see part of it or put more blame to the other side. You can even see it in this thread. Democrats are more to blame, no Republicans. NO they both are equal to blame because they both are equally screwing us all. The sooner people can get over their hatred of the other party the sooner we can fix the economy and everything else.
    I know and agree. I think a lot of this partisan divide is intentional on the part of both parties. They like keeping Americans politically divided and barking at each other.

    Just look at our "infotainers" that spout rhetoric and hyperbole every night on the televisions and radio airwaves. It's amazing how much partisan yelling there is. And everything is always the other side's fault.
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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    it's subprime that got us in the mess, most directly

    the practice of putting people in homes they really can't afford

    adjustable interest rates kept artificially low at the start

    big balloon payments several years in

    there were several ways for folks to get around pre-qual's, income requirements

    there was definitely AN AGENDA, fannie and fred put literally millions of such loans out there

    it's really not in the interest of lenders, you know, to put the bulk of their capital in the hands of folks who can't pay it back

    the agenda, ie, was POLITICAL

    the whole thing was dependent on the ability to refinance before the adjustable, before the balloon came due

    but this refi required continued appreciation in home values

    it was the appreciated equity these deadbeat (excuse me, please) borrowers were counting on using as their down's, their leverage for better terms

    when appreciation stopped, indeed, actually reversed...

    i would expect all of the above is common knowledge for the with-it members of this fine forum

    carter famously passed the community reinvestment act

    clinton famously removed glass steagall restrictions

    dodd and frank famously testified that fannie and fred were fine

    bush famously bragged that home ownership, especially among minorities, was thru the roof

    now, everyone wants to take it all back

    except there's one organization that's actually PROUD of its subprimey fingerprints

    ACORN

    on the community organizer's OWN web page they're STILL talking about helping you get into a home or stay in yours using all the tools at their activist disposal

    except they've TAKEN IT DOWN---LOL!

    the web page isn't there anymore!

    http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12...ex.php%3Fid%3D

    i still remember the phone number, i posted it so many times in previous posts

    1-866-67-acorn

    LOL!

    call!

    maybe you can get yourself a nice upside down mortgage

    OBAMA RECONSTRUCTED FANNIE AND FRED IN DECEMBER WITH NO LIMIT ON THE TAXPAYERS' BACKING:

    U.S. to Lose $400 Billion on Fannie, Freddie, Wallison Says - Bloomberg.com

    just this week another hurtful headline: HOME FORECLOSURES WERE 300G FOR THE 11TH STRAIGHT MONTH, WITH NO END IN SIGHT

    U.S. foreclosures top 300,000 again - ContraCostaTimes.com

    we are not close to the bottom of the housing market, realtytrac always says the same thing---more coming, pace to accelerate

    well, at least dodd and frank and bush and clinton all have the sense to run away from it all now

    but not ACORN

    the red t-shirts are PROUD

    they're PROGRESSIVE

    they REPRESENT

    you gotta admire their candor, at least

    obama got his start with acorn, acorn and obama are like a seed and a tall, skinny tree

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