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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Misleading headline. 31% of the public blaming Bush is not the same as the public blaming bush.

    It's dumb to play the blame game here when there are so many complex factors involved anyways.
    And it's also dumb not to read (or comprehend) the article before you comment on it.

    Bush garnered 31% of the blame. That was higher than any of the other options for blame. Bush also had a higher percentage of blame than Obama.

    The point was the American people still put a lot of blame on Bush. According to the poll, that's a fact.

    Now really the blame should be placed on everyone involved in every capacity.
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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    And it's also dumb not to read (or comprehend) the article before you comment on it.

    Bush garnered 31% of the blame. That was higher than any of the other options for blame. Bush also had a higher percentage of blame than Obama.

    The point was the American people still put a lot of blame on Bush. According to the poll, that's a fact.

    Now really the blame should be placed on everyone involved in every capacity.
    Also another reason why President Bush and even President Obama are getting a lot of the blame is when things go bad the presidents get blamed. It really isn't fair, but that is the way it is.

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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    The Republican Party cozily in bed with Wall Street since the Reagan years is most to blame. Although Reagan put in motion much of what Wall Street later used to hide their deeds from the public, it was not something he would have approved of in hind sight. Reducing government from big business may be a reasonable goal however because of the inevitable greed of some behind boardroom doors there ought always be kept some level of transparency, checks and balance. The utterly criminal actions of Enron should have been the wake up call but Republicans chose to ignore the signs.

    I have mostly criticism for the Democrats also. The majority have poor financial fiscal responsibility. Clinton bought into Wallstreet lies that NAFTA would be good for the nation. Thus offshoring, outsourcing, American technology transfers continued full ahead. What a tragedy for what had been the worlds greatest manufacturing powerhouse. Absolutely disgusting and Wall Street is most to blame. They deserved its benefits least, but had the most power so shortsightedlty were only interested in sucking dry every last buck as soon as they could. It was hard to argue against at the time with the explosion of the Internet dominating economics and covering up the growing decay below. Without wisdom Democrats bought into unlimited credit for all and the old American dream that everyone ought to be able to buy expensive moderm homes, even the poor. Most all national politicians and their economists bought into the moronic logic that housing prices forever rise. Despite the fact we had just suffered a similar bubble when the dot com lunacy collapsed. However human behavior or ordinary man will always be that if everyone else is doing it, it must be ok...duh!
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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    here, in the neighborhood, it's all so much simpler

    those to blame are all of us who spend more than we make, borrow more than we pay back, live off the labor of our neighbors, and vote for politicians who facilitate such blatant dodges of personal responsibility

    those who provide solutions are we with jobs, who pay taxes, take care of ourselves and our families, and work to make our futures secure

    way too many deadbeats and scam artists on THIS city street

    they spend a lot of time blaming others, too

    no coincidence

    one of our political parties makes most its living stoking and feeding off such sentiments

    no excuses, get to work

    president obama, fix this economy or get out of the white house

    and hurry up, it's freezing out

    and you're already a year late

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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Misleading headline. 31% of the public blaming Bush is not the same as the public blaming bush.

    It's dumb to play the blame game here when there are so many complex factors involved anyways.
    Winnb is a liberal, of course it's Bush's fault.
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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Winnb is a liberal, of course it's Bush's fault.
    And again you shouldn't make the thread about me. If you can't post your opinions without coming after me then just move on.
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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Fact is the economic crisis is part Bush, Part Both houses of congress, wall street, the banking industry, and finally Obama.
    Did you include the bold as a matter of convenience?

    The latest numbers other than from the Obamedia CNN pollsters show a trust rate of Obama on Economic Crisis of only 28%.
    I wonder what the percentage of people polled would state that imports have a negative welfare effect, or the US should have a positive trade balance (not even mentioning the current account)?

    Ths point here should not be who started it but who's doing the right thing to fix it and it sure as hell is not tax and spend us into depression
    Given that you are naive in regards to macro policy, ill just let this pass.

    Obama and the Liberals out of control Congress, or the Republicans we are not hearing the truth from load and clear as is needed to the people to say enough to to the crazy policies and thought process that makes believe raising taxes can whelp when history clearly shows it only hurts.
    Make no mistake about it.... Taxes are going to have to be raised one way or another. Drastic cuts to discretionary spending will have tumultuous effects on the economy. The impact of a sovereign debt crisis > raising taxes on the highest income earners in regards to economic hurt or pain.

    What a bunch of dumb assses all around.
    Given the comments from above, we will take your opinion with a grain of salt.

    I'd call the a rating of F.
    As a matter of convenience?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    obama doesn't know what the heck he's doing and, at this point, it's becoming THE problem

    he says he wants banks to lend, so he's gonna tax em

    he says he wants to help small biz, so he's repealing bush's tax cuts

    he says he's gotta get all the money back, and he doesn't begrudge the savvy their bonuses

    he said he'd never raise taxes a dime on middluns, but now he's agnostic

    i could go on, believe me

    the dude is totally incoherent

    the point---HE is the number one contributor these days to the UNCERTAINTY that is paralyzing employment

    and that's really saying something

    things are really, really bad, you'd think they couldn't get much worse

    but then obama starts talking...

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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    Whatever.

    Check the results in Mass, NJ, and Virginia, as well as the current polls in Illinois, Indiana, Arkansas, etc, to find out who the public is blaming right now.

    But nice try, CNN. Your party owns it now.

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    Re: CNN poll. The public still blames Bush for the economy

    The whole idea of blaming everyone is pure, unadulterated republicanazi bull****.

    The Republicans created this crisis by removing federal regulation of banks and money-lending insitutions.

    They should NOT be allowed to weasel out of it by blaming "everyone" for the crisis. This is bull****. It's a piss poor attempt by the Republi-thieves to avoid responsibility for a disaster that was created by a REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION to benefit FELLOW REPUBLICAN MONEY LENDERS.

    People really need to pull their heads out of their asses and take a breath of fresh air.

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