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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    I knew Jack Kirby. Lived three houses down. I was good friends with his daughters Lisa and Sue when I was a teenager (early 70s).

    Jack was a kind, fair, wise man. A fairly liberal guy, from what I observed. He and Roz opened their home and their hearts to pretty much everyone, without prejudice - I met all sorts of interesting and unusual people at their house. Sue was, by that time, semi-openly gay (she never spoke about it, but she didn't exactly hide it, either). Being out was something of a rarity in the early 70s, but Jack and Roz were proud of her and their love was unconditional.

    I suspect Jack's crowd images might have included a sprinkling of non-WASP faces, but I feel certain he would have been appalled at the kind of things typically seen at Tea Party rallies (conspiracy theories about Obama's heritage, rants about socialism/fascism/Nazism, images of Obama as an African warrior, as Hitler, as The Joker, etc.), and wouldn't have hesitated to produce something quite similar to this Marvel piece.
    I really don't see what's so bad about the bolded part.

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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur View Post
    I think that if your stupid enough to call yourself a 'Tea-Bagger', you deserve it.
    And I think that if you're stupid enough to confuse the words of a whole group with the words of a news network describing that group, then you're probably stupid enough to misplace you're with your.

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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Not sure why you're lumping me in there. Where in the world did I say that the signs in the Marvel comic weren't accurate to what was being put up.

    Furthermore, where have I said people in the movement haven't been saying "Tea Bag the Libs" or "Tea Bag the Congress" or whatever else.

    I've simply stated I've seen absolutely no evidence of any large group, or significant individual within the tea party movement, refer to themselves as "Tea Baggers" save when doing it to use irony at liberals using the term to define TEA PARTY members.



    Your link proved nothing but Cavuto writing a piece thick with irony and snarkyness aimed at the fact liberals call TEA PARTY members "Tea Baggers"

    The only evidence so far anyones provided anytime I've asked it is people on the right using it in a mockingly ironic way (Such as Cavuto laughing at people calling them "Tea Baggers" and suggesting their silly while the tea parties actually succeed) or people on the left calling them "Tea Baggers" because they've stated they need to "Tea Bag" someone, which came about because they sent TEA BAGS to the whiteh ouse.

    Your link proved jack.
    My link proves that tea partiers left themselves open for ridicule. It's the same thing as tea partiers getting peeved about a comic book.

    Now that I've done the little research that I've done I have more respect for the tea party to be honest... At first when I heard the term 'tea baggers' and yes it really was on Fox news, I thought 'these guys can't really be that dumb'. I really thought that they were proudly calling themselves tea baggers since Fox latched on to the term, I mean, it was like every other word out of their mouths seriously.

    Now I realize that they (the tea partiers) have someone with a sense of humor in their ranks. It's actually quite funny, to me anyway. And yes I agree with them that the government is spending a lot of money. I haven't really been paying attention to what it's all on exactly except of course the bank bail-outs. Which was President Bush's baby and now it seems like the whole tea party thing is an attempt to rewrite history and blame it all on Obama.

    There's one other sign in those photo's, it's of a mom carrying her child and a sign that says "I'm only 2 and I'm already in debt", well I happen to remember things as they actually happened. During the Clinton years Newt Gingrich proposed a bill to put new borns yes new borns in debt to the tune of $14,000.00 owed to the IRS the instant they took their first breath in order to pay for the deficit. So that's basically not a new idea and definitly not a liberal one.

    Also I was trying to keep this relevant to the topic. Didn't want to give away any more ammo like, god forbid, a typo.

    P.S. I think you misunderstood the second link to Fox News I provided it was actually them (Fox News) ripping on Rachael Maddow and what she has said about the tea party. And I'm sorry, Dav, if I misspelled MS. Maddow's first name. I know now that you automatically win debates here if you make grammerical mistakes...
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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur View Post
    Well you didn't do enough 'research' the link I posted proves that the tea party coined the term themselves.



    this is more obnoxious lies by one of the usual suspects...



    Please link to where they specifically refer themselves as "teabaggers"....
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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur View Post
    Here's the Tea Party sign in real life taken on Feb. 27th 2009

    Scenes from the New American Tea Party The Washington Independent





    i don't see them refering to thier group as "tea-baggers". Please retract your lie.
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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    i don't see them refering to thier group as "tea-baggers". Please retract your lie.
    rev, the right started it.....

    Rise of an Epithet by Jay Nordlinger on National Review / Digital

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    i don't see them refering to thier group as "tea-baggers". Please retract your lie.
    Funny thing is that I know (off hand) three people who attended the Tea Party gathering here in front of the Alamo some time back. Two of them are African American and the other is Mexican American. But a picture of any of them holding a sign saying "Tea Bag the Dems before they Tea Bag you" would not help the narrow minded label Tea Party members as racist, so ya know............
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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post




    I don't see any right wingers or libertarians refering to themselves as "teabaggers"...


    People who use this term to insult other members of DP, and the movement as a whole know this, and to suggest otherwise, displays a glaring lack of character and a peurile understanding of "civil debate", and it will no longer be tolerated.
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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I don't see any right wingers or libertarians refering to themselves as "teabaggers"...


    People who use this term to insult other members of DP, and the movement as a whole know this, and to suggest otherwise, displays a glaring lack of character and a peurile understanding of "civil debate", and it will no longer be tolerated.
    i think the point is that the tea partiers coined the term themselves. that was not a lie, and you should acknowledge that. i'm happy to acknowledge the term is used as an insult now.

    civil debate demands it.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

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