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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    no, we are not. We are people who believe in liberty, and the rule of law....


    Anarchists, well if I was an anarchist, in an anarchist society, I'd be a warlord.... And therefore no longeran anarchist.





    Who is not protesting peacefully? huh?
    Terrorists. Anarchists who bombed the stock market. The Seattle and Oregon anarchists who smashed windows, although ending up getting billy-clubbed and gassed, as it were.

    Libertarianism is maximizing man's freedom. This can only occur at the cost of centralized power. Radical Democracy has already eaten the Libertarian movement for dinner, and it is no longer alive as an idea for the betterment of humanity, but for the changing of the guard in Washington.

    It's funny how the poster-boy for the Libertarian movement is a long-time Washington suit. Ron Paul is an extremely intelligent man, with good morals and even better politics, so he knows that the only legitimate way for him to make any difference is to become part of the authority machine; if you cannot beat them join them.

    The original Boston Tea Party makes this current movement look nothing more than a bunch of frustrated citizens taking the pebbles that the King would give them. It incessantly mocks the very nature and course of the Boston Tea Party.

    This ideal that you can keep the ideological benefits of the BTP and Libertarianism, while still commercializing the movement to haggle for Government authority is absolutely abhorrent and contradictory to history.
    Of those two critiques, the commercializing of the Founding Fathers disgusts me. Rational reactionary rhetoric should grant the Founding Fathers the respect to be dead in peace, but no progeny has dug them up and hoisted them onto a political banner as if they were puppets.

    Get real.
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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I don't think Marvel should HAVE to apologize, and I think its ridiculous anyone in any movement feels like they should. Not because I think the Tea Parties should be "tougher", but because its their right to depict it however they want. They're an entertainment venue that is a private company and its not depicting anyone in particular. However I think its probably a smart business move to do so, since unlike depicting Nazi's as big giant villians, depicting an entire movement common in the US as extremist lunatics is likely not good for sales.



    I will ask you as I have asked others, all of which unable to produce something yet.

    Can you find an example of official Tea Party documentation (A website, news letter, etc) or significant tea party organizer or even a large group of Tea Parties that have called themselves "Tea-Baggers".

    Every bit of research I've done on the subject has found the only people actually LABELING them as such started with liberal commentators doing so.

    You made the accusation, please, back it up.
    Well I first heard the term on Fox News...

    Score One for the Tea Baggers - Neil Cavuto | Your World - FOXNews.com

    Only now are they trying to blame the liberals for the term...

    'Tea-Baggers' Take Massachusetts for Brown - Red Eye w/ Greg Gutfeld - FOXNews.com
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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur View Post
    Well I first heard the term on Fox News...

    Score One for the Tea Baggers - Neil Cavuto | Your World - FOXNews.com

    Only now are they trying to blame the liberals for the term...

    'Tea-Baggers' Take Massachusetts for Brown - Red Eye w/ Greg Gutfeld - FOXNews.com
    Ah, so your only example is from Fox News, a month or so after the term started being used, that seems to be using it specifically in a mocking way of those that used it through the context of the story starting with things like:

    Score one for the tea baggers. Those silly folks with their silly protests and their often silly signs and silly outfits and silly rants. Who's silly now?

    The folks laughing at them? Or, in California, the elected leaders who now clearly have to answer to them?
    Seems to be ridiculing and riffing off the fact that people started labeling them, in an attempt to belittle the movement, as "Tea baggers".

    Well done, you truly showed me.


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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur View Post
    Well I first heard the term on Fox News...

    Score One for the Tea Baggers - Neil Cavuto | Your World - FOXNews.com

    Only now are they trying to blame the liberals for the term...

    'Tea-Baggers' Take Massachusetts for Brown - Red Eye w/ Greg Gutfeld - FOXNews.com




    Who are the only obnoxious people who are using the term?



    Are you tryin to convince people that you can't figger this one out on your own?
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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Who are the only obnoxious people who are using the term?



    Are you tryin to convince people that you can't figger this one out on your own?
    I am obnoxious, and I don't use the term. What exactly does that mean?

    Can some one explain to me why this is even a story? A fictional work portrays a fictional situation based somewhat on real events. This is unusual how?
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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Terrorists. Anarchists who bombed the stock market. The Seattle and Oregon anarchists who smashed windows, although ending up getting billy-clubbed and gassed, as it were.

    Libertarianism is maximizing man's freedom. This can only occur at the cost of centralized power. Radical Democracy has already eaten the Libertarian movement for dinner, and it is no longer alive as an idea for the betterment of humanity, but for the changing of the guard in Washington.



    It's funny how the poster-boy for the Libertarian movement is a long-time Washington suit. Ron Paul is an extremely intelligent man, with good morals and even better politics, so he knows that the only legitimate way for him to make any difference is to become part of the authority machine; if you cannot beat them join them.

    The original Boston Tea Party makes this current movement look nothing more than a bunch of frustrated citizens taking the pebbles that the King would give them. It incessantly mocks the very nature and course of the Boston Tea Party.

    This ideal that you can keep the ideological benefits of the BTP and Libertarianism, while still commercializing the movement to haggle for Government authority is absolutely abhorrent and contradictory to history.
    Of those two critiques, the commercializing of the Founding Fathers disgusts me. Rational reactionary rhetoric should grant the Founding Fathers the respect to be dead in peace, but no progeny has dug them up and hoisted them onto a political banner as if they were puppets.

    Get real.


    Isn't Ron Paul a Republican?



    furthemore, its a simple concept, we believe we can provide for ourselves, we believe we are better suited at self determination than the idiots we vote into power, and that we are as free men, entitled to freedom as did the founding fathers.


    You have a problem with this?
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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Isn't Ron Paul a Republican?



    furthemore, its a simple concept, we believe we can provide for ourselves, we believe we are better suited at self determination than the idiots we vote into power, and that we are as free men, entitled to freedom as did the founding fathers.


    You have a problem with this?
    Ron Paul jumps back and forth. '88 he ran for the Presidency as Libertarian, and then in 2008 as a Republican; Gotta try it all, ye know.

    I agree with this simple concept. Yet the party empowers politicians. They are ridding themselves of one bad egg for another bad egg. The issue that these neo-Libertarians see, and their solution to the issue does not add up.
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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Ron Paul jumps back and forth. '88 he ran for the Presidency as Libertarian, and then in 2008 as a Republican; Gotta try it all, ye know.

    I agree with this simple concept. Yet the party empowers politicians. They are ridding themselves of one bad egg for another bad egg. The issue that these neo-Libertarians see, and their solution to the issue does not add up.




    oh don't get me wrong. thier last canidate turned my stomache..... barr? Who was he foolin?
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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    oh don't get me wrong. thier last canidate turned my stomache..... barr? Who was he foolin?
    After his cameo in Borat, I don't know how barr lost...
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    Re: Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

    And here's more for Zyphlin and Reverand Hellhound;

    Countdown with Keith Olbermann Countdown with Keith Olbermann

    Looks like the Tea partiers themselves are the ones to blame....

    You can comence with calling Olbermann a liberal but the picture in the interview says it all. Sorry.
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