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    McCain takes on GOP foe by tilting right

    I knew it. Next thing you know he will say that he is against illegal immigration and may other things to give the appearance that he is a conservative.


    NYT: McCain takes on GOP foe by tilting right - The New York Times- msnbc.com
    Now, Mr. Hayworth, a former Republican congressman, is preparing to expand his political appetite for Mr. McCain by formally announcing next week what everyone in this state has known for months: his challenge to the senator in the Republican primary in August.


    Mr. Hayworth hopes that by standing at the intersection of opportunity and timing, he can lure enough Tea Party sympathizers fresh off their convention in Nashville, seducible independent voters (Arizona has an open primary) and conservative Republican grass-roots activists, who have long been disenchanted with Mr. McCain.

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    Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. takes part in a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington, on Thursday.
    “The political winds of change are here,” Mr. Hayworth, 51, said over lunch. “The conservatives are highly motivated, and there is an intensity level among conservatives to take part in this primary. The atmospherics will help us.”

    Still bruised by his presidential run and struggling to find his footing in the fractured Republican Party, Mr. McCain remains a formidable force in his home state, through the sheer power of his name and fat campaign coffers. Most political analysts suggest that Mr. Hayworth begins as the underdog, and Mr. McCain’s supporters say they are confident.

    “Senator McCain takes every race seriously,” said Brian Rogers, a spokesman for the senator’s re-election campaign, “and is confident that the voters of Arizona will again return him to office as they have done in the past, and he is working hard to earn their continued support.”

    'A campaign conversion'
    Yet Mr. McCain now finds himself jammed, moving starkly — and often awkwardly — to the right, apparently in an effort to gain favor among the same voters whom Mr. Hayworth, a consistent voice for the far right, could pull toward him like taffy come summer.

    Mr. McCain now sharply criticizes the bailout bill he voted for, pivoted from his earlier position that the Guantánamo Bay detention facility should be closed, offered only a muted response to the Supreme Court’s decision undoing campaign finance laws and backed down from statements that gays in the military would be O.K. by him if the military brass were on board.

    “John is undergoing a campaign conversion,” Mr. Hayworth said.

    Mr. Hayworth’s radio-personality bluster and big emotions — he teared up in an interview when describing the film “The Blind Side” — were once the stuff of eye rolls, but may now have a part in the greater populist narrative that threatens many of the nation’s more centrist Republicans.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: McCain takes on GOP foe by tilting right

    Screw mccain... /thread
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    Re: McCain takes on GOP foe by tilting right

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I knew it. Next thing you know he will say that he is against illegal immigration and may other things to give the appearance that he is a conservative.


    NYT: McCain takes on GOP foe by tilting right - The New York Times- msnbc.com
    Now, Mr. Hayworth, a former Republican congressman, is preparing to expand his political appetite for Mr. McCain by formally announcing next week what everyone in this state has known for months: his challenge to the senator in the Republican primary in August.


    Mr. Hayworth hopes that by standing at the intersection of opportunity and timing, he can lure enough Tea Party sympathizers fresh off their convention in Nashville, seducible independent voters (Arizona has an open primary) and conservative Republican grass-roots activists, who have long been disenchanted with Mr. McCain.

    Image: John McCain
    Lauren Victoria Burke / AP
    Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. takes part in a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington, on Thursday.
    “The political winds of change are here,” Mr. Hayworth, 51, said over lunch. “The conservatives are highly motivated, and there is an intensity level among conservatives to take part in this primary. The atmospherics will help us.”

    Still bruised by his presidential run and struggling to find his footing in the fractured Republican Party, Mr. McCain remains a formidable force in his home state, through the sheer power of his name and fat campaign coffers. Most political analysts suggest that Mr. Hayworth begins as the underdog, and Mr. McCain’s supporters say they are confident.

    “Senator McCain takes every race seriously,” said Brian Rogers, a spokesman for the senator’s re-election campaign, “and is confident that the voters of Arizona will again return him to office as they have done in the past, and he is working hard to earn their continued support.”

    'A campaign conversion'
    Yet Mr. McCain now finds himself jammed, moving starkly — and often awkwardly — to the right, apparently in an effort to gain favor among the same voters whom Mr. Hayworth, a consistent voice for the far right, could pull toward him like taffy come summer.

    Mr. McCain now sharply criticizes the bailout bill he voted for, pivoted from his earlier position that the Guantánamo Bay detention facility should be closed, offered only a muted response to the Supreme Court’s decision undoing campaign finance laws and backed down from statements that gays in the military would be O.K. by him if the military brass were on board.

    “John is undergoing a campaign conversion,” Mr. Hayworth said.

    Mr. Hayworth’s radio-personality bluster and big emotions — he teared up in an interview when describing the film “The Blind Side” — were once the stuff of eye rolls, but may now have a part in the greater populist narrative that threatens many of the nation’s more centrist Republicans.
    james, i have to say that although i usually disagree with you 100% philosophically, you are one of the most consistent, morally certain posters on this board.

    john mccain has no moral center, now, as in 2008, it's about getting elected.

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    Re: McCain takes on GOP foe by tilting right

    ***** If it's an Open Primary McCain has a further advantage. Enough Democrats can cross over to get him over. Hayworth might scare them (??)

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    Re: McCain takes on GOP foe by tilting right

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinc Route View Post
    ***** If it's an Open Primary McCain has a further advantage. Enough Democrats can cross over to get him over. Hayworth might scare them (??)
    Which is a better? Electing a phony who pretends to be a conservative but is really a liberal or actually voting for a liberal?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: McCain takes on GOP foe by tilting right

    McCain will be unable to prove that he is more conservative than Hayworth. He will have to lean on his experience, yet Hayworth is no newbie to Congress. I think McCain's age works against him at this point too.
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    Re: McCain takes on GOP foe by tilting right

    Breaking new,politician checks which way the wind is blowing during an election.
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    Re: McCain takes on GOP foe by tilting right

    J.D. is relatively young especially compared to McCain who needs to wind down his political life and spend his time with family.

    If there are pictures of the two of them taken together the contrast in size will become a factor for some people. When you meet McCain the first thing you notice right off the bat is how short he really is, with J.D. it's just the opposite. He seems to have dropped a few ponds but he's at least 6'5'' and McCain is about 5'6" or less, and that means a lot to some people.

    McCain looks old and J.D. looks ready to take names and kick ass , besides being a real conservative. McCain's wife and daughter have not helped him of late. Cindy McCain has posed for an ad released by the NOH8 campaign, a pro-gay-marriage effort that pictures celebrities with their mouths taped, and his daughter has been telling people she's a progressive at a time Glenn Beck is trying to teach people how dangerous the progressives are. McCain should have an up hill fight shortly once people compare and contrast the obvious differences.
    McCain was a poor choice to run against and everyone knows the only thing he did right was Sarah Palin. That by the way takes the Dim (no spell error) pressure off just about all other Conservatives because she scares the hell out of them as is seen in their total freak out response to her every word.

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    Re: McCain takes on GOP foe by tilting right

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Which is a better? Electing a phony who pretends to be a conservative but is really a liberal or actually voting for a liberal?
    The Democratic party calls them 'Blue Dogs", but then again the Democratic party also doesn't call for a purity test.
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