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U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alphabet'

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Soldier father accused of 'waterboarding' daughter, 4, because she can't recite alphabet | Mail Online

A soldier waterboarded his four-year-old daughter because she was unable to recite her alphabet.

Joshua Tabor admitted to police he had used the CIA torture technique because he was so angry.

As his daughter 'squirmed' to get away, Tabor said he submerged her face three or four times until the water was lapping around her forehead and jawline.

Tabor, 27, who had won custody of his daughter only four weeks earlier, admitted choosing the punishment because the girl was terrified of water.
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Tabor, a soldier at the Lewis-McChord base in Tacoma, Washington, was arrested after being seen walking around his neighbourhood wearing a Kevlar military helmet and threatening to break windows.

Police discovered the alleged waterboarding when they went to his home in the Tacoma suburb of Yelm and spoke to his girlfriend.

She told them about the alleged torture and the terrified girl was found hiding in a closet, with bruising on her back and scratch marks on her neck and throat.

Asked how she got the bruises, the girl is said to have replied: 'Daddy did it.'
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A crying shame. :(
 
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That man is a terrible waste of human flesh, but it must be said that he does not represent soldiers in general. If a civilian broke into your home, would you say that he represents all civilians? Of course not.

I am not posting this to accuse you of anything. All you did was report a heinous act by a complete asshole. All I want to do is to nip any potential in the bud that seeks to make the claim that the man did it because he is a soldier. Human nature being what it is, I am sure that there are a few people, not only on this board, but also in the population at large, who might attempt to make an outrageous claim like this.
 
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towski said:
Soldier father accused of 'waterboarding' daughter, 4, because she can't recite alphabet | Mail Online





A crying shame. :(
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That is sick. To think anyone could do that to a preschooler is hideous, and it is millions of times more heinous to think a person would do that to his own flesh and blood.

I hope they turn him loose in the general population and he gets the **** beaten out of him.
 
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I know how so many are adamant that water boarding is not torture. Would this be considered torture for the little girl or just abuse?
 
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Goes to show you just because you put on a uniform it doesn't automatically make you a "hero" contrary to what you hear. I've always contended calling everyone in the military a heroes cheapens the real meaning of the word that applies to the real military heroes. I've know a few troops I wouldn't trust my dog to. But I still respect 99.999 of the troops as I was one myself once and I commend their sacrifices.

That said, I'm not making excuses for the man, but have to wonder if he was deployed, and if so did it have any effect on him.
 
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These kinds of stories challenge my opposition to the death penalty
 
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....we do live in a society where we for 8 years we were constantly told that waterboarding was not torture. I guess some people actually did buy it.
 
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While I certainly don't in any way condone what this man did....I think we have to recognize that these are the costs that we as a society pay when we overtax our military and send men/women into mission after mission where they are taught these types of things and are told by many that it is not torture and that it is an appropriate use of punishment.
I'm afraid that like Vietnam...we will be paying the costs of GWB's wars in many many many ways like this.
 
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disneydude said:
I think we have to recognize that these are the costs that we as a society pay when we overtax our military and send men/women into mission after mission where they are taught these types of things and are told by many that it is not torture and that it is an appropriate use of punishment.
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they don't teach waterboarding to people in the military, it is so well known because it has been publicized by the media. :2wave:
 
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He water boarded a 4 year-old?

W.T.F.....?

Give me five minutes with him and he will never do it again.... I promise you that.

*cracks his knuckles*
 
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other said:
they don't teach waterboarding to people in the military, it is so well known because it has been publicized by the media. :2wave:
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I know they don't teach it to all...but they do teach it to some.
 
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disneydude said:
I know they don't teach it to all...but they do teach it to some.
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so you think this man was taught to do so by the military?


...or do you think it is more likely he saw it on TV?
 
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other said:
so you think this man was taught to do so by the military?


...or do you think it is more likely he saw it on TV?
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I would only be speculating....but most likely the military. However...neither us can really say.
 
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disneydude said:
While I certainly don't in any way condone what this man did....I think we have to recognize that these are the costs that we as a society pay when we overtax our military and send men/women into mission after mission where they are taught these types of things and are told by many that it is not torture and that it is an appropriate use of punishment.
I'm afraid that like Vietnam...we will be paying the costs of GWB's wars in many many many ways like this.
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Bush's fault.
 
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disneydude said:
I would only be speculating....but most likely the military. However...neither us can really say.
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waterboarding isn't taught in the military. he was in the military, not the CIA.
 
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disneydude said:
While I certainly don't in any way condone what this man did....I think we have to recognize that these are the costs that we as a society pay when we overtax our military and send men/women into mission after mission where they are taught these types of things and are told by many that it is not torture and that it is an appropriate use of punishment.
I'm afraid that like Vietnam...we will be paying the costs of GWB's wars in many many many ways like this.
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And yet thousands of men and women served in the military where they saw the horrors of war, and yet didn't come home to abuse an innocent child.

There is no justification, no excuse, for this man's actions. He is a sub human waste.
 
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other said:
they don't teach waterboarding to people in the military, it is so well known because it has been publicized by the media. :2wave:
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Actually they do. Never been in the military?
 
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other said:
waterboarding isn't taught in the military. he was in the military, not the CIA.
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Really now? I guess they forgot to tell that to all the recruits that get to experience it first hand. :roll:

Another fun one is to be purposely gassed so you make sure your gas mask is put on properly.
 
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EnigmaO01 said:
Actually they do. Ever been in the military and got to experience it to see what it's like?
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The very few who do so in the military did so in SERE lvl C, prior to all the contraversy. And yes, I have been to SERE training, if that's what you're asking. They do things there to benefit soldiers in training, they don't teach it-- and all the instructors are trained medical personnel, who wouldn't have to be taught in special technique (such knowledge follows any basic knowledge of human anatomy).

Point being: this scumbag, obviously unstable, probably saw it on TV. Otherwise, he'd be one of the very few medical specialists who was an instructor at SERE, who all undergo psychological evaluations regularly--not likely.
 
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EnigmaO01 said:
Really now? I guess they forgot to tell that to all the recruits that get to experience it first hand. :roll:

Another fun one is to be purposely gassed so you make sure your gas mask is put on properly.
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So you're saying gas mask training = waterboarding?

No, I don't think so. not at all.
 
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Hatuey said:
....we do live in a society where we for 8 years we were constantly told that waterboarding was not torture. I guess some people actually did buy it.
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There is a huge difference between doing it to terrorist scum and your 4 year old daughter ;)
 
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Dittohead not! said:
And yet thousands of men and women served in the military where they saw the horrors of war, and yet didn't come home to abuse an innocent child.

There is no justification, no excuse, for this man's actions. He is a sub human waste.
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Every person is unique. Not everyone deals with situations and stress the same as others.
We cannot send men/women in to do the horrors of war and not expect to pay the human costs that are involved
I'm not saying that this is any wy excuses what he did, but we can't exactly act surprised about these things when they happen.
 
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Strucky said:
There is a huge difference between doing it to terrorist scum and your 4 year old daughter ;)
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So it's torture in one scenario but not the other? Subjective torture?
 
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Strucky said:
There is a huge difference between doing it to terrorist scum and your 4 year old daughter ;)
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Which is what? Enlighten me with your emotional response.
 
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It should be noted that this young, disturbed Soldier was never trained in any capacity to interrogate any prisoner, let alone conduct "waterboarding".

He is a child abuser, period. The fact that the OP insinuates that he somehow learned this technique of interrogation on active duty is beyond ridiculous.
 
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