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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Has there been some study that troops who serve in war have a higher rate of child abuse? Somehow I highly doubt it.
    Yes. Lots of them.
    Here's one:

    Military Deployment Stress Tied to Child-Abuse Increase


    http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/content/42/17/8.1.full



    And as a military dependent during the Vietnam era I can tell you I went to school with some really f'k up kids that were also Army brats like myself. Lots of suicide attempts, self mutilation, fights in school, drugs, you name it. I didn't see anything near that amount when I transferred to an school that the parents were civilians.

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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    I bet this ****ing pecker is going to blame it on PTSD or some bull****. Don't believe it - he's just a worthless coward.

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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Would this be considered torture for the little girl or just abuse?
    For guys in SERE school it's called "training"...

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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ....we do live in a society where we for 8 years we were constantly told that waterboarding was not torture. I guess some people actually did buy it.
    Suppose it is...what difference does it make? Are you saying that torture is categorically immoral? What about killing or maiming?

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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    But but but It's not torture! Its hazing....We do it to our own troops! Whats good for them is good for everyone! Why do you hate the troops!?

    I always wanted to do that.

    Besides I bet he got a confession from the kid. So I guess it doesn't matter seeing as he got good actionable intel vis-a-vis which teacher was a screw up. "Ends and means etc".

    And no, it's not trolling. Pretty much all of these excuses have been used to justify this exact same proceedure.
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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    Ted Kennedy tried to specifically outlaw waterboarding, he failed.

    To my knowledge, waterboarding is still legal, I think just like any other form of interrogation that happens under extreme duress, it must be signed off on by the Pres and AG, I think that is current law, I'll research that one given time.
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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    As his daughter 'squirmed' to get away, Tabor said he submerged her face three or four times until the water was lapping around her forehead and jawline.


    That is not waterboarding, but heinous none the less.
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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    For guys in SERE school it's called "training"...
    Learning the acts is "training" performing them in real life scenarios is not.
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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    And no, it's not trolling.
    Maybe not, but it's still illogical.

    Pretty much all of these excuses have been used to justify this exact same proceedure.
    Yea, on terrorists. You know the difference between terrorists and little girls, don't you?

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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Learning the acts is "training" performing them in real life scenarios is not.
    If by "learning the act" you mean "being waterboarded", then yes, you are correct. Moreover, SERE school is real life; water-boarding does not become less unpleasant because a SERE instructor is doing it to you.

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