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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The legality of waterboarding has depended on the claim that since it is not torture, then it is not only legal but allowable. If it is legal & allowable to waterboard somebody because it is not torture then I really do not see a problem with this at all. It is corporal punishment 21st century style.
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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    Has there been some study that troops who serve in war have a higher rate of child abuse? Somehow I highly doubt it.

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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Obviously.....ths difference is that the 4 year old is very likely to have information vital to the national intereests of the United States. She would...at 4 years old...have life or death information that would be critical to extract as soon as possible and under extreme duress if necessary.

    Putting her on restriction was clearly not enough. It's obvious between the g and h in the alphabet she couldn't recite...that there was secret info on training camps and networks of murdering religious fanatics. Threatened with having no iPhone upon growing up, she started to crack but....only got to the f in the alphabet.

    The difference is that KSM was an innocent Mosque assessment engineer who was praying for peace when Pakistan troops burst down his door and sold him to Americans for drug money. Whereupon the monster Bush threw him into a hole and stole his human rights.

    This...girl...is clearly a traitor and a terrorist. The difference, Hatuey, is that most people don't care about this lil 4 year old Benedict Arnold. Your fears and sympathy in the correct place here, your query "which is what" quite sound
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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    This is a very sick and disturbed thing to do but what does this story have to do with the fact that the so called "father" is a soldier. I saw a CNN story that said " Irag Veteran " held daughter's head under water to force her to "say her letters".

    I was P'O'd about that also because I want to know from CNN what the hell does his status as a soldier or a Vet have anything to do with the fact that the guy is a moron.

    I recall in the first 20 years or so after Vietnam that the media would ID a wrong doer as a Vietnam Veteran. Sure we all robbed banks and did drugs after we came home.!!!!!
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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Has there been some study that troops who serve in war have a higher rate of child abuse? Somehow I highly doubt it.
    As noted in another post I experieneced reading the same crap in the media about Vietnam Vets after Vietnam. The media made it appear that we were all drug crazed savages who were not fit to live in society.

    Oh don't worry about the fact that 99.99 % of us Vietnam Vets and I am positive same for Iraq/Afghanistan vets came home, went back to school.back to work, started a career, got married, raised a family, started a business, worked our butts off, paid our taxes, obeyed all laws except traffic rules, and were and are normal citizens.

    Yet the F-ing media just doesn't want to expose the truth the the masses.
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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    I am against waterboarding and yes, I think it is torture. However in this case it is a clear case of child abuse and the article focuses on waterboarding in a way to score political points IMO.

    This is a tragedy nonetheless. Child abuse is a terrible thing.

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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    PTSD's a bitch
    Are you seriously blaming this moron's behavior om PTSD ? maybe he is a whack job and would have been one regardless of the fact that he is a vet.
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    Re: U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Goes to show you just because you put on a uniform it doesn't automatically make you a "hero" contrary to what you hear. I've always contended calling everyone in the military a heroes cheapens the real meaning of the word that applies to the real military heroes. I've know a few troops I wouldn't trust my dog to. But I still respect 99.999 of the troops as I was one myself once and I commend their sacrifices.

    That said, I'm not making excuses for the man, but have to wonder if he was deployed, and if so did it have any effect on him.
    Any form of stress may indeed trigger a person who has a latent instability to do something bad or very bad as in this case. Yet having said that the stress that can trigger this does not have to be miliatry service or combat service.

    Stop blaming the action a a whackjob on the military.
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