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    Re: Outspoken gay activist called back to active Army duty

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    And homosexuals already use mens bathrooms and there isn't any bad consequence unless they were to state they were homosexual (and thus making people uncomfortable), this is why DADT is essential for gays to be in the military. Right now there is no problem with gays in the military because no one knows who is gay unless they tell someone or do some sort of homosexual act. My rational isn't saying to lie, it's saying to keep things quiet so no one feels uncomfortable, violated, or put in inappropriate situations. Essentially, don't ask if someone is gay, and don't tell if you are gay. This way everyone can serve and no one feels uncomfortable/violated. To serve and be openly gay would make many uncomfortable living, showering, and sharing facilities with that homosexual person for obvious reasons. We have male and female facilities for the same reason why we shouldn't allow openly gay individuals in the military, it makes people uncomfortable and is not appropriate.

    Talk about living in a state of denial. As a straight man, wouldn't you prefer to know who is gay and who is not when you are in the showers? Personally, I don't care. I don't get all freaked out over nudity....but if you do...wouldn't you prefer to know? Are you really saying that living in a state of denial is the best of all worlds?
    Can you NOT see who deranged that thinking is? Essentially you are arguing that "ignorance is bliss". Why is it that those on the right are always advocating for less education and less information?
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    Re: Outspoken gay activist called back to active Army duty

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You have now compared homosexuality to physical disabilities. You prove every day you are not a real person. By the way, do you know if Malcolm X was a mute too?
    Same logic as those who compared the black civil rights movement to gays in the military, apples to oranges.

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    Re: Outspoken gay activist called back to active Army duty

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So then you admit DADT really had nothing to do with Clinton? Good.
    Homosexuals being banned from the military has been around for as long as I can remember, before WWII and before that. Homosexuality has been frowned on by all political parties, just so you lefties don't try to pin it on us crazy right wingers.

    Why don't you try doing research on your examples of "Democrats" before you go talking about what is "right wing" and "left wing".

    Ike Skelton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I think just looking him up on Wiki would have explained to you why a "Conservative Democrat" as opposed to a "Liberal Democrat" would vote for such a law. Being a Democrat doesn't make you "left wing" on social issues.
    Such a reliable resource that Wikipedia. The Left loves it so they can use it to rewrite history. Just look at it. If you don't like what's written, you can go in and edit it to your heart's content. You need a better resource than the most edited resource on the Internet. People start questioning your knowledge when you continually quote from Wikipedia.

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    Re: Outspoken gay activist called back to active Army duty

    From CBS, complete with interview:

    Openly Gay Soldier Dan Choi Back in Uniform

    Lt. Dan Choi, who was discharged from the military for revealing he is gay under the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, is back in uniform.

    According to The Bilerico Project, Choi was supposed to lead a workshop on ending "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Friday but sent his regrets because he had been called up to train with his National Guard unit.

    "Apparently, Lt. Choi's commander has always been in full support of him, and even after Lt. Choi came out on The Rachel Maddow Show, his commander did not press for his discharge," writes Jeff Sheng, who posted pictures of Choi in training. "The military did eventually serve Lt. Choi a discharge notification - essentially firing him from his job, but he was allowed to fight this at trial, and as it currently stands, the discharge has not been finalized."

    "Given the current state of how DADT is in such flux, and also, in my opinion, the prominence and celebrity of Lt. Choi, his discharge might never be fully enforced," adds Sheng.
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    Re: Outspoken gay activist called back to active Army duty

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    That's a 20th century reality only. The Revolutionary War, the Barbary Wars, the War of 1812, the Mexican War, the Civil War, all saw American warriors heavily outnumbered.

    Thanks, that made my day.

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    Re: Outspoken gay activist called back to active Army duty

    The real question is, what legal precedence do they have for ignoring the law? If they can ignore this law, that opens the door for some clown to come along and ignore any other law he wants.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Outspoken gay activist called back to active Army duty

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post

    Thanks, that made my day.
    What's so funny about it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Outspoken gay activist called back to active Army duty

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What's so funny about it?
    Its a civil war. Both sides were American so how were they outnumbered?

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    Re: Outspoken gay activist called back to active Army duty

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    Its a civil war. Both sides were American so how were they outnumbered?
    The Confederates were greatly outnumbered in most engagements...and still came damn close to winning the war.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Outspoken gay activist called back to active Army duty

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The real question is, what legal precedence do they have for ignoring the law? If they can ignore this law, that opens the door for some clown to come along and ignore any other law he wants.
    While I agree that I can't think of a legal precedence for this, I am almost positive that this happened at the highest levels. Choi has been the most outspoken opponent of DADT and has been on the national stage about the issue.

    It is not an accident that he was re-called.

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