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Veteran congressman's death adds to Barack Obama's woes

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Good news for the right........This would be a huge gain for the right...


Veteran congressman's death adds to Barack Obama's woes | World news | The Guardian

Veteran congressman's death adds to Barack Obama's woes• Democrats fear Republicans will win seat held since 1974


Ewen MacAskill in Washington The Guardian, Tuesday 9 February 2010

The Democratic party faces another election test after the death yesterday of John Murtha, a congressman dubbed by his colleagues the "king of pork".

Murtha, aged 77, had been in the House of Representatives since being elected to his Pennsylvania district in 1974.

The fear in the party is that Republicans will notch up another victory when a special election is held, probably May
 
Wouldn't make a bit of a difference. Sorry to burst your Republican bubble Navy.
 
Wouldn't make a bit of a difference. Sorry to burst your Republican bubble Navy.

Why are the democrats worried about it then? Do you have any idea how long Murtha has held this seat......
 
Good news for the right........This would be a huge gain for the right...

No it wouldn't. The GOP might gain one seat. One.

And even if they do what do you think will change? The people in Murtha's District have been re-electing him since 1975. He brings home the pork. Even if a Republican gets elected to replace him he'll have to bring home the pork or he won't keep his job long.

So what difference does it make? The GOP is packed full of big spenders just like the Dems.
 
Why are the democrats worried about it then? Do you have any idea how long Murtha has held this seat......

In your knee jerk reaction to be a cheerleader for your Republican party...you once again failed to read your own link past the headline:

"]"Murtha's death will have a negligible impact on the arithmetic of the House, where the Democrats have an overwhelming majority, unlike in the Senate :doh:doh:doh:doh
 
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Why are the democrats worried about it then? Do you have any idea how long Murtha has held this seat......

I'm glad to see that you removed Murtha from your signature. Is this some sort of bucket list? People you want to see die before yourself?

Checking them off like a Christmas list?
 
No it wouldn't. The GOP might gain one seat. One.

And even if they do what do you think will change? The people in Murtha's District have been re-electing him since 1975. He brings home the pork. Even if a Republican gets elected to replace him he'll have to bring home the pork or he won't keep his job long.

So what difference does it make? The GOP is packed full of big spenders just like the Dems.

I have a flash for you myleft wing friend........I am from Murtha's district, Altoona to be exact and the only reason he ever got reelected is because of the pork he brought to Western Pa. and that is history now......Most people held their nose when they voted for him........

Why are you arguing with me anyhow? Its the dems in congress who are afraid.............
 
No it wouldn't. The GOP might gain one seat. One.

And even if they do what do you think will change? The people in Murtha's District have been re-electing him since 1975. He brings home the pork. Even if a Republican gets elected to replace him he'll have to bring home the pork or he won't keep his job long.

So what difference does it make? The GOP is packed full of big spenders just like the Dems.




***** The difference Is - he's gone. Any emotional hold he had on some is also probably gone. Under Term Limits he could have been gone when Reagan was still President.
 
In your knee jerk reaction to be a cheerleader for your Republican party...you once again failed to read your own link past the headline:

"]"Murtha's death will have a negligible impact on the arithmetic of the House, where the Democrats have an overwhelming majority, unlike in the Senate :doh:doh:doh:doh

Every seat counts my left wing friend and to win this one which has been the dems for 30 years is huge, comparable to the Kennedy seat in Mass. in relation to the time the left has held it..........
 
Every seat counts my left wing friend and to win this one which has been the dems for 30 years is huge, comparable to the Kennedy seat in Mass. in relation to the time the left has held it..........

Actually it doesn't Navy. Not unless the numbers are close. Senate seats have always and will continue to matter a great deal more than congress seats.
I don't like the way our legislative power is proportioned....but that's the reality.
 
I have a flash for you myleft wing friend........I am from Murtha's district, Altoona to be exact and the only reason he ever got reelected is because of the pork he brought to Western Pa. and that is history now......Most people held their nose when they voted for him........

Why are you arguing with me anyhow? Its the dems in congress who are afraid.............

I'm simply pointing out that Murtha's District is expecting a tremendous amount of pork to continue to come their way. When they don't get it they're going to boot out whoever is in Murtha's former seat.

In other words, whether it's a Dem or a Republican that takes Murtha's place, nothing will change.
 
I'm simply pointing out that Murtha's District is expecting a tremendous amount of pork to continue to come their way. When they don't get it they're going to boot out whoever is in Murtha's former seat.

In other words, whether it's a Dem or a Republican that takes Murtha's place, nothing will change.

You don't have to tell me about that district...I am from there and a lot of people there believe in morals and integrity which Murtha once had until senility took over..........
 
You don't have to tell me about that district...I am from there and a lot of people there believe in morals and integrity which Murtha once had until senility took over..........

You're not a doctor, nor did you know Murtha personally. Which means you have no idea whether or not Murtha was senile.

Don't worry, someone will take his seat. And then you and your District will keep getting your pork.
 
The special election for that parasite's seat will be a possible indicator of how the winds in Pennsylvania have shifted, if they have.

If the GOP is smart, they'll select an American to run for the office and not anyone resembling an escapee from the African Savannah section of the local zoo, and we'll get to see how this guy performs against the flaming libtard the Democrats will nominate.

Or, we'll get to see if the Democrats will nominate a so-called "moderate" who will make pro-American sounding noises but who will be guaranteed to obey Nancy if elected.

So, who the Democrats nominate will be an indicator of their levels of fear and arrogance.

Who the Republicans nominate will be a measure of their level of attention to the people.

And...if the GOP does nominate some RINO, like they did in District 23 in New York, we'll see how well an independent conservative candidate will do in a three way race.

AND...if the GOP does nominate a RINO, everyone in that district opposed to treason should do everything they can (legally) to prevent that candidate from winning. Split the vote and if that means a Dem is elected until the November elections, fine.

Just so long as the message to the GOP is that the Americans are tired of their left-wing compromising bull**** ways.
 
AND...if the GOP does nominate a RINO, everyone in that district opposed to treason should do everything they can (legally) to prevent that candidate from winning. Split the vote and if that means a Dem is elected until the November elections, fine.

Just so long as the message to the GOP is that the Americans are tired of their left-wing compromising bull**** ways.

You just compared a RINO to someone that commits treason. Hey if you wanna go with greedy, egotistical, self centered, narcissistic, two-faced liars, sure I could call some RINOs those things. But I could call most politicians those things.

But treasonous?
 
You just compared a RINO to someone that commits treason.

Hey, fancy that! I said it right again!

Someone working actively to damage the United States, be it with foreign assistance or independently, is a traitor.

People working to destroy the Constitutional basis of our government are damaging the United States deliberately and with malice aforethought.

Hey if you wanna go with greedy, egotistical, self centered, narcissistic, two-faced liars, sure I could call some RINOs those things. But I could call most politicians those things.

But treasonous?

Traitors.
 
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In your knee jerk reaction to be a cheerleader for your Republican party...you once again failed to read your own link past the headline:

"]"Murtha's death will have a negligible impact on the arithmetic of the House, where the Democrats have an overwhelming majority, unlike in the Senate :doh:doh:doh:doh

It's all in the momentum leading up to the mid-term elections, which right now is all bad for the Dems. Another Republican victory in a long-held Democratic district will not only give the GOP and its activists more confidence in the elections, it will show the independents that the GOP can win again and push more over to their side. You may dispute the importance of it, but the DNC knows this is actually more likely to happen if the GOP takes this seat than otherwise. Their worry isn't for this one seat, but rather their worry is for the momentum that is building against them for the November elections.
 
And...if the GOP does nominate some RINO, like they did in District 23 in New York, we'll see how well an independent conservative candidate will do in a three way race.

AND...if the GOP does nominate a RINO, everyone in that district opposed to treason should do everything they can (legally) to prevent that candidate from winning. Split the vote and if that means a Dem is elected until the November elections, fine.

Just so long as the message to the GOP is that the Americans are tired of their left-wing compromising bull**** ways.

This whole RINO thing is the reason the GOP will never be a majority party again. The Big Tent is truly dead if this is the prevailing thought in the GOP and if this REvival Tent continues, I will continue to remain outside the GOP as I have since 2003.
 
This whole RINO thing is the reason the GOP will never be a majority party again. The Big Tent is truly dead if this is the prevailing thought in the GOP and if this REvival Tent continues, I will continue to remain outside the GOP as I have since 2003.

Amen, brother. Preach it!
 
I have a flash for you myleft wing friend........I am from Murtha's district, Altoona to be exact and the only reason he ever got reelected is because of the pork he brought to Western Pa. and that is history now......Most people held their nose when they voted for him........

Why are you arguing with me anyhow? Its the dems in congress who are afraid.............

how long have you lived in the pnw? when was the last time you lived in altoona?
 
Lets see the health care passed the house by 1 vote so yes it does matter. That would be 1 of many the democrats may lose in November. It would show a voting trend for this year directly related to what Obama is doing
 
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I'm simply pointing out that Murtha's District is expecting a tremendous amount of pork to continue to come their way. When they don't get it they're going to boot out whoever is in Murtha's former seat.

In other words, whether it's a Dem or a Republican that takes Murtha's place, nothing will change.

People will really care about money to an airport no one uses.
 
People will really care about money to an airport no one uses.

Murtha had been in office since the 70's. Do you think that's because of his good looks and charm? No. It's because he brings home the bacon baby.

His district kept re-electing him for a reason. And that reason is pork. A republican in Murtha's place will fare no better and would be wise to continue sending the other white meat back home. Or he'll soon find himself out of a job.
 
In your knee jerk reaction to be a cheerleader for your Republican party...you once again failed to read your own link past the headline:

"Murtha's death will have a negligible impact on the arithmetic of the House, where the Democrats have an overwhelming majority, unlike in the Senate :doh:doh:doh:doh

And, they still can't get anything done. Why is that?
 
Murtha had been in office since the 70's. Do you think that's because of his good looks and charm? No. It's because he brings home the bacon baby.

His district kept re-electing him for a reason. And that reason is pork. A republican in Murtha's place will fare no better and would be wise to continue sending the other white meat back home. Or he'll soon find himself out of a job.

People often vote for the incumbent with out knowing much about the person.
 
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