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    Re: Veteran congressman's death adds to Barack Obama's woes

    if any of you can look at va, nj and ma and NOT see something very big and very national going on, well, you're wrong

    you'd be as delusional as obama

    meanwhile, in the keystone state, we know that:

    benedict arlen the incumbent TRAILS little upstart toomey by NINE

    and this toomey drinks TEA

    this aint no RHINO we're talkin

    no, a LIPTON LOVER in QUAKER country

    quite odd, hence very revealing

    and, more narrowly on point---whatever phenomenon i'm pointing to would be a lot stronger in the western part of the state than in the burbs

    no?

    oh, yes, pa12 is trouble for dems

    culture of corruption catches up, how's that for a headline

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    Re: Veteran congressman's death adds to Barack Obama's woes

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    You're assuming the Dem that runs in Murtha's district is gonna lose 30% of the vote. His district has nothing to do with Virginia or Massachusetts.

    And here's the only point I made earlier - what difference does it make if a Dem or Republican wins the seat? That district is a giant pile of pork. Whoever wins the seat better keep the pork coming or they'll be out of a job soon.
    It is a national movement. The dems and Obama pushed to far now voters will push back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It is a national movement. The dems and Obama pushed to far now voters will push back.
    Cool ..now we'll see if they see things your way.

    Sure hope the Republicans can win back the House. I want to see legislation bottlenecked because of petty infighting between the House and Senate.

    As long as we maintain a two party system, the best government is one of gridlock.

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    Re: Veteran congressman's death adds to Barack Obama's woes

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Cool ..now we'll see if they see things your way.

    Sure hope the Republicans can win back the House. I want to see legislation bottlenecked because of petty infighting between the House and Senate.

    As long as we maintain a two party system, the best government is one of gridlock.
    You haven't enjoyed the in fighting of the democrats on the healthcare bill?

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    Re: Veteran congressman's death adds to Barack Obama's woes

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The whole "Big Tent" notion is bull****.
    For the last two decades of the twentieth century, Republicans welcomed people who didn't march with them lock step on every issue. Then the evangelicals took over the party. As a Catholic and someone who is knowledgable about the history of discrimination against Catholics in the United States (something not unique to the US among English-speaking countries) I am wary about a party where the likes of Palin and Huckabee are among the leading figures.

    To say that a party that campaigns on a smaller government, smaller taxes, and pro-business agenda can't complain when an elected candidate turns out to be big government pro-tax anti-business turd is absurd.
    But you can't expect everyone to march in lock step on EVERY issue in the party. There will be differences on some issues. I am pro-environmentalist and when I was an activist in the GOP on the local and state levels, I was roundly criticized for it by members of my own party -- telling me that true Republicans do this or believe that. Sickening.

    Let's see, when the Rapist had his party's re-nomination campaign in 1996, his party refused to allow the governor of the state hosting the convention to speak solely because that governor had pro-life views that conflicted with the pro-baby-murder agenda of the Democrat Party, and you want to whine about the Republican?
    Did you see me defend the Democrats on this point ANYWHERE on this post or anywhere else? Did I say I identify myself as a Democrat?

    (FYI: The GOP IS a major party. Has always been one since Lincoln was elected.)
    Do you know the difference between "major" and "majority"?
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    Re: Veteran congressman's death adds to Barack Obama's woes

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    For the last two decades of the twentieth century, Republicans welcomed people who didn't march with them lock step on every issue.
    Right.

    Look where that got us. Demopubs and Republocrats.


    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Then the evangelicals took over the party. As a Catholic and someone who is knowledgable about the history of discrimination against Catholics in the United States (something not unique to the US among English-speaking countries) I am wary about a party where the likes of Palin and Huckabee are among the leading figures.
    Yes. Of course. Any one that promotes self-reliance and independence is a serioius threat. I understand completely.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    But you can't expect everyone to march in lock step on EVERY issue in the party.
    Not that I said any such thing. It's amazing how you people love making strawmen, isn't it?

    But let's see, what are the core Republican issues?

    National defense, fiscal responsibility as expressed by lower taxes and smaller government.

    Anyone that violates those three issues, defense, tax cuts, reduced spending, is an enemy of the Republic and belongs in the Democrat Party.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I am pro-environmentalist and when I was an activist in the GOP on the local and state levels, I was roundly criticized for it by members of my own party -- telling me that true Republicans do this or believe that. Sickening.
    Oh, of course. Naturally True Republicans want to see every green plant in North America pulled up and replaced by an oil rig.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Did you see me defend the Democrats on this point ANYWHERE on this post or anywhere else? Did I say I identify myself as a Democrat?
    Did you see me say I cared?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Do you know the difference between "major" and "majority"?
    Steroids?

    Actually, I mis read it. I expect the Republicans to regain the majority in the Senate this year, and possibly the House, too.
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