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    Re: Gang interventionist gunned down after confronting tagger

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How well has change/redemption worked with street gangs, so far?
    Chicago Ceasefire, for instance, has significantly reduced gang-related violence in the areas where it has been implemented.

    http://www.northwestern.edu/ipr/publ...rs/summary.pdf
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    Re: Gang interventionist gunned down after confronting tagger

    Nice cease fire ya got there...

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gang interventionist gunned down after confronting tagger

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Chicago Ceasefire, for instance, has significantly reduced gang-related violence in the areas where it has been implemented.

    http://imakeprojects.com/Projects/fl...m_HPIM1723.JPG
    The whole notion of a, "cease fire", I think is the worst way to handle the problem. There need to be some heads cracked, instead of giving these punks credibility by begging them to stop being assholes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gang interventionist gunned down after confronting tagger

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The whole notion of a, "cease fire", I think is the worst way to handle the problem. There need to be some heads cracked, instead of giving these punks credibility by begging them to stop being assholes.
    Do you have some data supporting that as a realistic approach?

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    Re: Gang interventionist gunned down after confronting tagger

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Again they are all different people. They all have different story's and some get out.

    You want to sit in judgment of all of them. You want to bypass everything this country was founded on in your witch hunt.

    You want to get rid of all liberty and turn the US into a police state. Then the police will become the next gang problem. As if they are not already part of the problem.
    These people are also fans of torture. See the possible dangers? Once you've dehumanized and tortured one group, what keeps you from doing the same to Americans that you similarly dehumanize?

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    Re: Gang interventionist gunned down after confronting tagger

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Do you have some data supporting that as a realistic approach?
    No, just common sense and a gander at the article in the OP. Giving credibility to gang members is no better than giving miranda rights to terrorists. Both are impotent approaches to solving the problem.

    Daryl Gates had the right approach in Los Angeles, but the PC'ers came out in force against it, nevermind the drop in gang activity that Gates's plan produced.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gang interventionist gunned down after confronting tagger

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    nevermind the drop in gang activity that Gates's plan produced.
    Countries that cut people's hands off for stealing also have lower theft rates. Just because something drops the crime rate, doesn't mean that's the best solution nor does it mean we should do it here in the U.S.

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    Re: Gang interventionist gunned down after confronting tagger

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Chicago Ceasefire, for instance, has significantly reduced gang-related violence in the areas where it has been implemented.

    http://www.northwestern.edu/ipr/publ...rs/summary.pdf
    Cease fire?..you don't negotiate with gang members for a cease fire on American soil, they either lay their weapons down and surrender or we will do it for them one way or the other. This is a nation that has laws and those laws are clear.

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    Re: Gang interventionist gunned down after confronting tagger

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Do you have some data supporting that as a realistic approach?
    ever heard of Elliot Ness, read his bio.

    here another link wiki..sorry using wiki.


    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Ness]Eliot Ness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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    Re: Gang interventionist gunned down after confronting tagger

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Countries that cut people's hands off for stealing also have lower theft rates. Just because something drops the crime rate, doesn't mean that's the best solution nor does it mean we should do it here in the U.S.
    what would you propose, I am sure anyone is open to a good idea, I am.
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