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    Re: Iran Moves Closer to Nuke Weapon Capacity

    and it's not just iran, remember

    his entire domestic agenda 2009 is dead---health care, cap and trade, financial regulatory reform

    his improvised post-MA agenda is tiny and 2/3 outta reach---his stimulus which he can't call a stimulus, his bank tax, his debt commission

    and foreign policy, forget about it, there aint none

    except ESCALATION in afghanistan

    sorry it all went so south so fast

    he's inept

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    Re: Iran Moves Closer to Nuke Weapon Capacity

    Maybe Iran is planning to conduct a nuke test during the anniversary of their revolution. Maybe that's the big "punch" to the West they're talking about.
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    Re: Iran Moves Closer to Nuke Weapon Capacity

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    why would anyone care what i say

    iran is kicking obama's skinny political ass

    did you see the cbs headline

    when's obama gonna meet with their leaders?

    when are we gonna see the results of all the reaching out?

    when are putin and hu gonna come on board?

    and this guy wonders what folks would say if ahmedinejad kissed someone's feet

    LOL!
    Caring about what your opponent says is implicit in a debate. Otherwise the whole enterprise fails.

    and it's not just iran, remember

    his entire domestic agenda 2009 is dead---health care, cap and trade, financial regulatory reform

    his improvised post-MA agenda is tiny and 2/3 outta reach---his stimulus which he can't call a stimulus, his bank tax, his debt commission

    and foreign policy, forget about it, there aint none

    except ESCALATION in afghanistan

    sorry it all went so south so fast

    he's inept
    For one thing, you are exaggerating Obama's troubles. Your interpretations as to what extent he has failed are heavily informed by partisanship. Secondly, the failure of politicians to accomplish certain ends is indicative of problems in the political system - considering the obstacles the United States faces, any good outcomes could be inherently impossible no matter who is in charge.

    For one thing, I don't think Obama has failed in Iran. So far, he's taken the high road and pursued mutually satisfactory arrangements. Either Iran hasn't lied and won't use their nuclear capability to make weapons (and therefore the whole point is moot) or they will and they'll have nothing to justify their broken promise to pursue peaceful applications of the technology to the international community. Having nuclear weapons can't really help Iran because they can't use them without having the culture, language, people, and religion they cherish being destroyed. The only advantage they get is it discourages invasions, and that's pointless because everybody is already plenty discouraged from attacking Iran, which is why it hasn't happened yet.
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    Re: Iran Moves Closer to Nuke Weapon Capacity

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Maybe Iran is planning to conduct a nuke test during the anniversary of their revolution. Maybe that's the big "punch" to the West they're talking about.
    Doing so would be foolish. It would end up uniting the world against Iran and it would end up causing Israel to wipe out Iran's military bases, nuclear sites, any various governmental installations.

    Iran's idiot leader needs to be removed and then jailed for life ... AFTER HIS BEARD IS FORCEFULLY SHAVED OFF HIS FACE.

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    Re: Iran Moves Closer to Nuke Weapon Capacity

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Iran can't produce enough nukes to threaten the existence of human civilization.

    Once again, Iran's government has invested a considerable portion of their revenue over the last couple decades into modernizing their economy and improving prosperity. The idea they are willing to "suicide bomb" their country to hurt the West is not a very sound theory.

    Iran's government, while tyrannical, cares far more about Iran than the Palestinians and Israel.


    ***** Let me clarify it a bit. Being that we now have as Leftist a US President as anytime ever - someone who probably got MidEast Money in 2008 passed thru many hands because his Private view of the Jewish State HAD to be different than all predecessors - and knowing this new reality Israel like at this moment is considering contingency plans . These have existed for several years though updated naturally .

    ****** Time is very quickly running out - One Nuke hit on Israel might finish them yet not produce a much wider conflagration - but Israel if it uses it's stockpile - even part of it - might even in this post Cold War setting bring on August 1914. This is WHY it's getting mighty dangerous and it was almost inevitable when Barry took over.

    ****** The Israeli's do not trust him.

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    Re: Iran Moves Closer to Nuke Weapon Capacity

    How are they going to fit the nuke in their underwear?

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    Re: Iran Moves Closer to Nuke Weapon Capacity

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Maybe Iran is planning to conduct a nuke test during the anniversary of their revolution. Maybe that's the big "punch" to the West they're talking about.
    If they do, let's hope it's a successful test

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Iran's idiot leader needs to be removed and then jailed for life ... AFTER HIS BEARD IS FORCEFULLY SHAVED OFF HIS FACE.
    By who and what authority?

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    Re: Iran Moves Closer to Nuke Weapon Capacity

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    For one thing, you are exaggerating Obama's troubles.
    nope

    health care---dead

    cap and trade---dead

    reg reform---dead

    jobs bill, the stimulus which aint a stimulus---small ball, also in some trouble congressionally

    bank tax---no way

    debt commission---lost on floor, 53-47

    Your interpretations as to what extent he has failed are heavily informed by partisanship.
    sorry, sigmund

    health care---dead

    cap and trade---dead

    etc

    Secondly, the failure of politicians to accomplish certain ends is indicative of problems in the political system
    LOL!

    considering the obstacles the United States faces, any good outcomes could be inherently impossible no matter who is in charge.
    excuses don't buy reelections

    nor massachussetts

    For one thing, I don't think Obama has failed in Iran.
    sure, he's got em right where he wants em

    So far, he's taken the high road and pursued mutually satisfactory arrangements.
    mutually satisfactory arrangements---LOL!

    Either Iran hasn't lied...
    ok, neville

    and won't use their nuclear capability to make weapons (and therefore the whole point is moot) or they will and they'll have nothing to justify their broken promise to pursue peaceful applications of the technology to the international community.
    then "they'll have nothing to justify their broken promise to pursue peaceful applications of the technology..."

    LOL!

    Having nuclear weapons can't really help Iran because they can't use them without having the culture, language, people, and religion they cherish being destroyed. The only advantage they get is it discourages invasions, and that's pointless because everybody is already plenty discouraged from attacking Iran, which is why it hasn't happened yet.
    a nuclear iran radically alters the geopolitics of not just the region but the entire planet

    the threat of their handing off wmd's to one of their clients is terrifying

    to gramma, terrifying to gramma

    when's the last time you called her?

    she's not real interested in your debate, either

    obama's the most inept politician at the national level she's ever seen
    Last edited by The Prof; 02-09-10 at 05:14 AM.

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    Re: Iran Moves Closer to Nuke Weapon Capacity

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    a nuclear iran radically alters the geopolitics of not just the region but the entire planet
    Good ..and then there'd be one less country the US would invade.

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