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    Re: Rep. John Murtha, Iraq war critic, dies at 77 (not a [r.i.p] thread) be warned

    ***** Murtha became the embidiment of what is wrong with Congress and our system. He had one goal - to hang onto his seat no matter what. He moved to the Left to avoid any possibility of a challenge from a younger Hard Liberal. The only way he was going to leave was Feet First.

    ****** Yesterday he went out horizontal and the seat might now go Republican.

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    Re: Rep. John Murtha, Iraq war critic, dies at 77 (not a [r.i.p] thread) be warned

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Nice strawman... Is that western hay?
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    Re: Rep. John Murtha, Iraq war critic, dies at 77 (not a [r.i.p] thread) be warned

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    When was the trial?
    Are you denying they were found not guilty? You must be the only one in the world who did not know it......
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    Re: Rep. John Murtha, Iraq war critic, dies at 77 (not a [r.i.p] thread) be warned

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinc Route View Post
    ***** Murtha became the embidiment of what is wrong with Congress and our system. He had one goal - to hang onto his seat no matter what. He moved to the Left to avoid any possibility of a challenge from a younger Hard Liberal. The only way he was going to leave was Feet First.

    ****** Yesterday he went out horizontal and the seat might now go Republican.
    I totally agree.

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    Re: Rep. John Murtha, Iraq war critic, dies at 77 (not a [r.i.p] thread) be warned

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Are you denying they were found not guilty? You must be the only one in the world who did not know it......
    Psssst.....

    Four enlisted Marines, including Sharratt, were originally charged for their roles in the killings and four officers were charged in connection to the investigation. One officer was acquitted and charges have since been dropped against everyone else except Wuterich, whose case is pending.

    <snip> Marine Sues Congressman for Slander Over Haditha Comments - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

    This was in sept., '08. Do you have any info on the ones that were not acquitted? Did they go to trial? Were those the one's found not guilty?

    I mean, being acquitted, kinda means, "not guity" don't it?

    I'm Googling for links. If anybody has any, please share. Enquiring minds wanna know.

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    Re: Rep. John Murtha, Iraq war critic, dies at 77 (not a [r.i.p] thread) be warned

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Im on my iphone. Do me a favor spend 5 mins on google. If you are still at a loss when i have a bettwr system ill show you the not only accuitals but where some were pronounced innocent.
    I already know the answer. Of the 8 Marines, only 1 was found innocent. 6 of them had their cases dropped, and 1 is still facing charges and a trial.

    So unless you have evidence to the contrary, your previous statement is false.

    As of June 17, 2008, six defendants had their cases dropped and one was found not guilty. The exception is SSgt. Wuterich, whose trial date has been postponed.[12] At least three officers have been officially reprimanded for failing to properly initially report and investigate the killings.[13]

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    Re: Rep. John Murtha, Iraq war critic, dies at 77 (not a [r.i.p] thread) be warned

    Facts, schmacks, you wascal-wee wabbit.

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    Re: Rep. John Murtha, Iraq war critic, dies at 77 (not a [r.i.p] thread) be warned

    Dela Cruz testimony

    Sanick Dela Cruz claimed that Wuterich had, following a bombing in which Marines were injured and that took place about one week prior to the Haditha incident, instructed his men to kill any nearby Iraqi in case of another bombing to "teach them a lesson". Dela Cruz also contradicted Wuterich's account that the five unarmed men from a nearby car, which Wuterich is accused of having shot to death, were trying to run away, and instead said that they were "just standing around", and that some of them held their hands behind their heads when Wuterich opened fire. He claimed that Wuterich then shot them in the chests at close range to ensure their death. Dela Cruz admitted to having fired upon the men himself but claimed that by the time they had already been dead. He also admitted to having urinated on one of the bodies, and said that at the time he thought the men were responsible for the bombing, and that his emotions had taken over due to the death of Lance Corporal Terrazas and the injuries the IED inflicted on two other Marines.

    Dela Cruz also testified that Wuterich later instructed him to tell anyone who asked that the men had tried to run away, and were consequently shot by the "Iraqi Army". Dela Cruz admitted to having lied to investigators on at least two occasions and claimed that he could not tell the truth until prosecutors dropped the charges against him.[citation needed]

    Aerial footage of the area that an unmanned drone shot minutes after the IED explosion put the claim that the men had tried to flee into question, but also cast doubt about Dela Cruz's account of his role in the shooting.[13]

    Lt. Col. Colby Vokey, one of Wuterich's defense attorneys, disputed Dela Cruz's account of the incident and questioned his credibility for changing his story several times during the investigation.[citation needed]

    On September 2, 2007, an updated re-airing of 60 Minutes, narrated by Scott Pelley, disclosed that Wuterich did not have to go to Iraq, but went because "he wanted to see war". Pelley also revealed that all charges had since been dropped against Sanick Dela Cruz and two others.

    Dela Cruz recounted his story in an in-depth profile in the July 2008 edition of Chicago Magazine, speaking about the ordeal to a journalist for the first time.
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    Re: Rep. John Murtha, Iraq war critic, dies at 77 (not a [r.i.p] thread) be warned

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Psssst.....

    Four enlisted Marines, including Sharratt, were originally charged for their roles in the killings and four officers were charged in connection to the investigation. One officer was acquitted and charges have since been dropped against everyone else except Wuterich, whose case is pending.

    <snip> Marine Sues Congressman for Slander Over Haditha Comments - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

    This was in sept., '08. Do you have any info on the ones that were not acquitted? Did they go to trial? Were those the one's found not guilty?

    I mean, being acquitted, kinda means, "not guity" don't it?



    I'm Googling for links. If anybody has any, please share. Enquiring minds wanna know.

    No but I remember reading that the case is over and all were found not guilty...Not sure where the law suit is either......

    I guess the thing that really bothers me is Murtha is and EX marine.He should have never run his mouth off about those marines and what is really sad he called them murderers on the day the incident happened without any proof...........
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    Re: Rep. John Murtha, Iraq war critic, dies at 77 (not a [r.i.p] thread) be warned

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    No but I remember reading that the case is over and all were found not guilty...Not sure where the law suit is either......

    I guess the thing that really bothers me is Murtha is and EX marine.He should have never run his mouth off about those marines and what is really sad he called them murderers on the day the incident happened without any proof...........
    If running your mouth without proof were a crime Navy....you'd be serving life without parole.
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