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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Op-Ed Columnist - America Is Not Yet Lost - NYTimes.com

    I found this editorial interesting in conjunction with the OP.
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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    This is something I hope both parties can get behind, but right now it is tactically helpful for the GOP to keep obstructing government, so they'll never vote in favor of changing the rules.

    I mean christ, 33 people voted to continue the filibuster.

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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    An update: Senator Shelby has released the blanket hold on Obama's nominees. It turns out that public embarrassment is the most effective antidote to situations like these.
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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    I'm sure the Republicans have good reason for blocking these appointees. Obama seems to nominate his buddies and fellow ideologues. Just look at Gates, Rham, and Nepolitano...

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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'm sure the Republicans have good reason for blocking these appointees. Obama seems to nominate his buddies and fellow ideologues. Just look at Gates, Rham, and Nepolitano...
    Yes, I'm sure the Republicans have good reason for blocking appointment to key national security positions and making America less safe so that they can get pork for their districts.

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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Ok, lets break this down.

    Senator Richard Shelby, Republican - Alabama, is blocking several of Obama's appointees not because Shelby has an issue with the appointees, but rather he is holding the process hostage until Alabama gets a 35 Billion Dollar defense contract and an FBI Lab.

    This is a perfect example of just how intellectually bankrupt the so called "conservative movement" is. You have a conservative Republican that is potentially putting the nation's national security at risk, just so he can spend more of your money in his state. This, coming from the guys that are supposed to be the fiscal conservatives and party of limited government. I guess this has worked before for Senator Shelby, as his state ranks 15th in pork barrel spending, and gets back more in federal spending than its citizens pay in in federal taxes. So basically, his state is a bunch of welfare queens dependent on wealth transfers from richer states.

    These guys talk a good game, but none of them ever lives up to their rhetoric. That alone demonstrates how intellectually bankrupt their ideology is. Its never one time been successfully put into practice.
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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'm sure the Republicans have good reason for blocking these appointees. Obama seems to nominate his buddies and fellow ideologues. Just look at Gates, Rham, and Nepolitano...
    Think before you type. Gates was the Bush Administration's Secretary of Defense. He is a Republican. Obama simply kept him on.
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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    for a president and a party to enact their agenda, absolutely, they should be able to attract 60 votes

    if their measures are popular they should have no trouble obeying senate and house rules, as well as the constitution

    out of an election a president, a party receive some measure of mandate, and it's up to them to use it, work it, enact it, etc

    if it crashes, well, it's hardly manly to blame the rules

    hardly leaderly

    doesn't inspire confidence

    this might be one of your problems

    that you don't understand things like this

    and

    for the american people to see an entire agenda crash mightily like this one, and then TO REWARD the party in OPPOSITION with a THIRTY POINT swing in places like massachusetts...

    yes, doggone it

    i'm pretty darn sure, by now

    these kinda things ARE your very problem

    the very HEART of the matter

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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    This is a perfect example of just how intellectually bankrupt the so called "conservative movement" is.
    Hey, I have an idea, let's take a single case of something a single guy did and decide that it shows something about an entire broad movement.

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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Senator Shelby should be arrested and charged with attempted extortion of the American people.
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