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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Yeah its almost like Senators Landrieu and Nelson taking bribes for their vote on the health plan................
    Thats typically how the senate works. Senators giving votes for pork

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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Thats typically how the senate works. Senators giving votes for pork
    This was not pork...this was a bribe...........You did not even know about it?
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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    This was not pork...this was a bribe...........You did not even know about it?
    Pork. Its common for senators to get things for their district for their vote. Nothing was personally given to her. That would be a bribe.

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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Pork. Its common for senators to get things for their district for their vote. Nothing was personally given to her. That would be a bribe.
    They don't get those 2 votes there is no health bill.........You have to be the most partisan person in DP or the most naive......
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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I have seen Democrats do this during the Bush years. They had best give Shelby what he wants, especially on the earmark.
    Shelby needs to be removed from office. He's a nazi dickhead.

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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Yeah its almost like Senators Landrieu and Nelson taking bribes for their vote on the health plan................
    So are you saying both situations are OK, or that both are wrong? Which is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I can't believe you guys are arguing over judicial appointees being blocked by Senators on one side or another. You know what? BOTH SIDES DO IT. And the people get frakked over because of it.
    Dude, read the article. We're not talking about judicial appointments. We're talking about a wide swath of various executive branch appointments that the GOP and Shelby have no actual issues with. If he had an issue with these nominees, it wouldn't be a big deal. But that isn't the case. He's using them as hostages to get a contract for his state. See the difference?
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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    They don't get those 2 votes there is no health bill.........You have to be the most partisan person in DP or the most naive......
    No not everyone is as partisan as you are NP. Not naive either; I recognize what this actually is. This is the same stuff congress has been doing for years. If it was those 2 votes there would have been a health care bill. Obviously not the case but way to derail the thread.

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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Shelby needs to be removed from office. He's a nazi dickhead.
    What a stupid answer..........Unbelievable.........
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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    So are you saying both situations are OK, or that both are wrong? Which is it?


    Dude, read the article. We're not talking about judicial appointments. We're talking about a wide swath of various executive branch appointments that the GOP and Shelby have no actual issues with. If he had an issue with these nominees, it wouldn't be a big deal. But that isn't the case. He's using them as hostages to get a contract for his state. See the difference?
    I am against all earmarks and bribes...........
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    Re: Senator's Projects Stall Obama Appointees

    Today, the U.S. Senate seems determined to make the Sejm look good by comparison.

    Last week, after nine months, the Senate finally approved Martha Johnson to head the General Services Administration, which runs government buildings and purchases supplies. It’s an essentially nonpolitical position, and nobody questioned Ms. Johnson’s qualifications: she was approved by a vote of 94 to 2. But Senator Christopher Bond, Republican of Missouri, had put a “hold” on her appointment to pressure the government into approving a building project in Kansas City.

    This dubious achievement may have inspired Senator Richard Shelby, Republican of Alabama. In any case, Mr. Shelby has now placed a hold on all outstanding Obama administration nominations — about 70 high-level government positions — until his state gets a tanker contract and a counterterrorism center.

    What gives individual senators this kind of power? Much of the Senate’s business relies on unanimous consent: it’s difficult to get anything done unless everyone agrees on procedure. And a tradition has grown up under which senators, in return for not gumming up everything, get the right to block nominees they don’t like.

    In the past, holds were used sparingly. That’s because, as a Congressional Research Service report on the practice says, the Senate used to be ruled by “traditions of comity, courtesy, reciprocity, and accommodation.” But that was then. Rules that used to be workable have become crippling now that one of the nation’s major political parties has descended into nihilism, seeing no harm — in fact, political dividends — in making the nation ungovernable.

    How bad is it? It’s so bad that I miss Newt Gingrich.
    Op-Ed Columnist - America Is Not Yet Lost - NYTimes.com

    I found this editorial interesting in conjunction with the OP.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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