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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You would also be increasing the size of government to be able to do this. I thought you were for SMALLER government?
    Do you mean that when you register to vote, you not only have to prove who you are, but also show a tax return?

    How is that increasing the size of government?
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    No. I'm saying that if you had some skin in the game, you might vote responsibly and not for the person that promises you all the money he can steal from those that do pay taxes.... but you knew that.
    You suggested $1. How is that going to make a person vote more responsibly?

    Charging people to vote is not the answer nor will it make them vote more responsibly, thank goodness we don't have that.

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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Crunch, there are currently people that currently donate thousands of dollars towards campaigns and pay taxes that I would say don't vote responsibly (ie. they just vote Republican or Dem and don't know the stances of politicians).

    Why do you think money given to the government via taxes would somehow make people vote responsibly when there are people that already pay taxes that don't vote responsibly?

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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    OK. I think I see your confusion. Are you referring to this http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058538567? If so, take a look at the first quote from Danarhea. I copied his quote. If that's not it, I have no effing idea to what you are referring to.

    and if that is what you are referring to, it was a quote from an article
    No I'm referring to your deleted post where you responded to my challenge that Palin was illiterate.

    My quote that you quoted in your deleted post said specifically

    Please present your evidence that she is illiterate.
    Not historically illiterate, not politically illiterate, but illiterate all by itself.

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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Good lord, what is so wrong with requiring someone to be competent before they can vote?

    If you can't bother to learn to read, you shouldn't be voting.
    Give me a break. Tancredo's comments had little to do with literacy but all to do with calling anyone who voted for Obama illiterate.


    Someone said it well; Tancredo is a lose cannon.

    If the Teaparty is all for standing up again the over spending and over taxation by our government -- more power to them. Unfortunately the movement is being hijacked by those on the fringe and the partisan hacks that just hate Obama.

    I love how at the "Teaparty Convention the same people that call for an end to extravagant spending by the government are paying $500 a head to attend and another $350 to listen to Caribou Barbie. Anyone else see a contradiction here? Oh and don't forget the Teaparty Cruises.
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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    You should have stopped at "I wasn't there" You have no racist remarks at all to point to.
    Do you seriously have that much of reading comprehension problem??

    I clearly said -- BASED ON THE INFORMATION IN THE ARTICLE. That's what this thread is, A DISCUSSION of the INFORMATION/FACTS/QUOTES that are in the article. I can't believe you're so thick as to not understand the basic premise of a discussion thread.


    Please present your evidence that [Sarah Palin] is illiterate.
    Seriously??

    See, textmaster, we get your little game -- you're trying to split hairs over the meaning of "literacy" and "illiterate". You found a limited definition that suits your petty argument and now you're going to run with it -- "Whoopiedie Doooo!! I own a pocket dictionary."

    But the rest of us know that words meanings beyond the basic definition -- they have connotations and denotations... (look those two words up in your pocket dictionary) And while your at it, wrap your head around this concept:

    Illiterate: 3 : showing or marked by a lack of acquaintance with the fundamentals of a particular field of knowledge <musically illiterate>
    And I believe the quote was "civics, literacy"...

    Now videos, quotes, statements, and testimony by others are posted all over this board about Sarah Palin and her lack of cultural, historical, political, literacy.... Her illiteracy on a variety of topics including civics, economics, public policy, U.S. history, etc....

    I don't feel the need to beat a dead horse (or Caribou) do you?

    Psst. That isn't a literacy test
    Psst. Your understanding of the word LITERACY is very limited. You should get a big person's dictionary

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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    … After Civil Rights was instituted in the 1960's, and the practice of conducting literacy tests in the South was effectively ended, racist elements in the United States fell back on subtle "code words" to push their racist views. Lately, however, racists have been emboldened and, as illustrated here, the code words are out, and the real meanings and intents are back. …
    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Another American who joins you in his concern about the language and the imaginary characteristic of the Tea Party movement is a former President.

    “I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man.” — President Jimmy Carter¹

    “And that racism inclination still exists. And I think it's bubbled up to the surface because of the belief among many white people, not just in the south but around the country, that African Americans are not qualified to lead this great country. It's an abominable circumstance, and it grieves me and concerns me very deeply.” — President Jimmy Carter²
    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Good God..... you are quoting Carter?
    Indeed I am quoting Carter. Shows you how insightful he is! Even at age 85, President Carter has a keen sense of American society. Personally, I am proud that I voted for him twice.

    Most important, the Tea Party movement does not represent a positive development in our politics today. They are regressives and nativists and, yes, racists. Let's move on!
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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    I'm going to attempt to inject this thread with some insanity.

    I can see 2 sides here. Personally though, I have to disagree with the OP. While Tancredo may indeed have been racist, there is no way to be sure. The US's only experiance with literacy tests has been during reconstruction. Other countries have had literacy tests and they are not racist about it.

    Then again, BECAUSE we have had literacy tests before and how abusive precinct managers were with them and, especially since we have a black president, his comment may have been racist or, at least very inflammatory. Us southerners know our history and the vast majority of them, both within and outside the tea parties are not proud of how reconstruction was handled, including literacy tests.

    Then again, being how energetic the tea party is, it could very well just be inflammatory just for that reason, not because it is racist. Tancredo shoots his mouth off and you know bashing Obama will always rally opposition.

    And another thing, while having the same literacy tests from the 1800's would be racist, isn't voting for someone JUST BECAUSE they "look like me", be just as racist as well?

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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Read what I actually wrote. If you did you wouldn't post such asinine bull****.
    I did and what you said was equating voters to prove themselves as being racially discriminatory, talk about jumping to conclusions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why stop there though? Why not bar homosexuals from voting considering 85% of this country has religious disapproval of homosexuality? What about parties which do not fit the perfect democratic picture? Why not poor people? Why not old people? Why not young people? Why should we let you vote? How do I know you're not a moron? For all I know you're just some dumbass poor, gay homosexual student with piercings. Why should we let you vote?
    How about you answer my question first?

    If anyone can vote and their reasons or understanding are completely faulty, why not let children vote?
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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You do realize that this would be equivalent to charging people to vote don't you?
    Yep, it's to deter people who don't want to contribute.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And who decides exactly what is on the test, how it is worded, what score you need? Who is going to pay for this?

    You effectively want to create a LARGER government to handle this.

    Why is this necessary?
    I don't think a real test would be practical.
    That's why I suggested being a tax payer and not being paid or benefited by the government in most ways.
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