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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Exactly so how does that translate into racism unless someone infers it.
    I didn't get into that issue because Danarhea covered it pretty well. So ask him.

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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Good lord, what is so wrong with requiring someone to be competent before they can vote?

    If you can't bother to learn to read, you shouldn't be voting.
    Because it is infringing on a basic civil liberty and it gives the people who decide on the tests way too much power to disenfranchise people who do not share their views on the correct interpretation of the constitution, political philosophy, etc.

    Jim Crow laws are one example of this sort of abuse.

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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again and again tea party folks prove their lack of metal. Sad. Really sad.
    Dana just called out people on basically his side of the aisle for unacceptable rhetoric. I think the least I can do is point out that Tancredo is not representative of the tea party people as a whole, or even most. Most are people who simply have real disagreements with the way the government is run. I am not a tea partier, I don't agree with them for the most part, but let's not judge them all based on one idiot.
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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Because it is infringing on a basic civil liberty and it gives the people who decide on the tests way too much power to disenfranchise people who do not share their views on the correct interpretation of the constitution, political philosophy, etc.

    Jim Crow laws are one example of this sort of abuse.
    The guy said nothing about Jim Crow laws, he said, in short, that people should have some concrete understanding with the realm of reading and civics.

    That does not equate to purposeful discrimination of black people.
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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Dana just called out people on basically his side of the aisle for unacceptable rhetoric. I think the least I can do is point out that Tancredo is not representative of the tea party people as a whole, or even most. Most are people who simply have real disagreements with the way the government is run. I am not a tea partier, I don't agree with them for the most part, but let's not judge them all based on one idiot.
    Well, it IS more than one idiot, but they are not representative of tea partiers, whose real issues are that of being sick and tired of big government, high taxes, and redistribution of people's hard earned money. Unfortunately, their voices are being drowned out by the loonies. They need to speak louder, and let people know that these loudmouths do not represent them.
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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The guy said nothing about Jim Crow laws, he said, in short, that people should have some concrete understanding with the realm of reading and civics.

    That does not equate to purposeful discrimination of black people.
    I am not trying to combine the two, I was just using a historical example. My fear is that if there is a commission for voter testing someone will skew it towards only certifying people who are strict constructionalists (or loose constructionalist, or whatever) or some other philosophy. If we have such a commission, it is going to be extremely controversial from day 1 because everyone is going to be fighting to shut out their political opponents from having the right to vote. Whether it is based on race or some other factor, people will try to use this for their own or their side's political gain.

    This would be like the fights between conservatives and democrats about voter registration issues times one thousand.
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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The guy said nothing about Jim Crow laws, he said, in short, that people should have some concrete understanding with the realm of reading and civics.

    That does not equate to purposeful discrimination of black people.
    And Jim Crow laws didn't really say "No niggers allowed". They used other words like "Coloreds". And the American civil war wasn't really about slavery. It was about states having rights(like the right to own slaves). And the KKK doesn't say it is a group of white people who hates niggers. It is now a White Nationalist group. We can sugarcoat this thing all day if you want.
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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I am not trying to combine the two, I was just using a historical example. My fear is that if there is a commission for voter testing someone will skew it towards only certifying people who are strict constructionalists (or loose constructionalist, or whatever) or some other philosophy. If we have such a commission, it is going to be extremely controversial from day 1 because everyone is going to be fighting to shut out their political opponents from having the right to vote.

    This would be like the fights between conservatives and democrats about voter registration issues times one thousand.
    I'd rather use my idea of people being allowed to vote based on two criteria.

    1.You must pay taxes, $1 is fine but you must pay something.

    2.You must not receive pay, benefits etc from the government.
    That includes special tax provisions, corporate welfare, et all.
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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And Jim Crow laws didn't really say "No niggers allowed". They used other words like "Coloreds". And the American civil war wasn't really about slavery. It was about states having rights(like the right to own slaves). And the KKK doesn't say it is a group of white people who hates niggers. It is now a White Nationalist group. We can sugarcoat this thing all day if you want.


    Did anyone ever say that "coloreds" shouldn't vote in this thread?
    Not at all, voting should require something.

    If we allow every moron to vote, why not allow children?
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    Re: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I didn't get into that issue because Danarhea covered it pretty well. So ask him.
    Sorry, I was being more general. That wasn't to you specifically.
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