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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Don't worry, it will be a blood bath in November.

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    Bloodbath? Hardly. The GOP might pick up some seats in the House, I'll give you that. But bloodbath? Nah.

    People are annoyed at the Dems because the Dems are in power. But don't mistake annoyance at the Dems with love for the Republicans.
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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Do you think "reich wing" helps or hurts your chances at civil debate?
    They hurt as they will never see things with a open mind..

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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Bloodbath? Hardly. The GOP might pick up some seats in the House, I'll give you that. But bloodbath? Nah.

    People are annoyed at the Dems because the Dems are in power. But don't mistake annoyance at the Dems with love for the Republicans.
    Absolutely.

    The Democrats should not slow down their efforts to wreck the United States just because they lost a few special elections. Everyone still loves them and everything they're doing. If anything I want to see them push their agenda even harder, with more airtime for Nancy Pelosi, Joe "I Saw Avatar" Biden, Hairy Reid, and even the Messiah. The more the public gets to see of these people the better it will be for America.
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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Bloodbath? Hardly. The GOP might pick up some seats in the House, I'll give you that. But bloodbath? Nah.

    People are annoyed at the Dems because the Dems are in power. But don't mistake annoyance at the Dems with love for the Republicans.
    Massachusetts.
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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Spending is out of control, government is too big....
    Big Government can do some things very effectively, like wage war, or bail out corporations, keep the water flowing and the toilets clean... Big government is just a machine with many moving parts.

    I think big politics and special interests are what's out of control.


    Like i asked, are you anti-war? What did you think of those protesting?
    I assume you mean those protesting a specific war or war in general... It would depend on the war/conflict.

    First Gulf War - I fully supported it. We had UN authorization, a coalition of forces, with the expressed purpose of expelling Iraqi forces from Kuwait.

    Afghanistan 2001 - fully supported it. It was an immediate, decisive and appropriate response to 9/11. We never should have divereted forces to Iraq until Bin Laden was captured.

    Iraq - I supported the troops. Our Government made a decision to wage war in Iraq, while a disagreed with their justification for war, I fully supported the individuals being called on to serve. We sent books and VHS tapes to Iraq. I made a point to personally thank soldiers for their service. And I attended funeral masses for the fallen.


    What did I think of those protesting? -- The far-left fringe, "Bush is the devil", those folks? Not much. Hyper-partisan, overly-emotional. But they were relatively few compared to the Tea Party, and overall very ineffectual seeing as Bush was re-elected.

    Two big differences between the anti-war protest directed at Bush and the Tea Party protests directed at Obama.

    1) The anti-war folks were protesting something that actually existed. We were involved in a war. The Tea Party folks come with these wild notions about Czars, Marxism, Death Panels -- their understanding of these things is not based in fact.

    2) Size and scope of the protests.

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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by pugetsoundwa View Post
    They hurt as they will never see things with a open mind..
    I see you are trying to be "that guy".
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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No, only fools use the term "Reichwing".



    Which one?

    When I use the derogatory term, I'm referring to the buffoon currently living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

    Ahh thanks. Dems don't worship their leaders the way Repubs do their though, Dems simly call him Mr President.

    The price of treason is high, and should be.



    No, I'm a Libertarian. But your disdain for the greatest American president in the Twentieth Century is noted.

    I have little to no disdain toward FDR

    Hmm....faceless bureaucrats providing a vital service...or unelected faceless bureaucrats sucking on my blood.

    Why do you prefer unelected faceless bureaucrats who cannot be fired and who do not face free market forces to compel them to provide services?
    Corps are also faceless odd that you favor for a profit healthcare that will take money from you then tell you rather or not they will cover you
    You're not stupid enough to trust your government, are you?

    My Govt is of the people,by the people and for the people, had fore fathers fight and die to make it so

    You mean Joe Republican, who I've never met, is an American, like me.
    You never met Joe Republican??

    A Day in the Life of Joe Republican

    Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.
    All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

    He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

    In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

    Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

    He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

    Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.

    If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

    It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.

    Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university.

    Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.

    He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.

    The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

    He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

    Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Massachusetts.
    Do you think Scott Brown would have beaten a healthy and campaigning Ted Kennedy?
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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Big Government can do some things very effectively, like wage war, or bail out corporations, keep the water flowing and the toilets clean... Big government is just a machine with many moving parts.

    I think big politics and special interests are what's out of control.

    there is were your fundamental disagreement is with the tea party movement, and the founding ideals of this nation.


    What did I think of those protesting? -- The far-left fringe, "Bush is the devil", those folks? Not much. Hyper-partisan, overly-emotional. But they were relatively few compared to the Tea Party, and overall very ineffectual seeing as Bush was re-elected.

    Are you serious? how do you arrive at that. The protests were full of kooks.

    Two big differences between the anti-war protest directed at Bush and the Tea Party protests directed at Obama.

    1) The anti-war folks were protesting something that actually existed. We were involved in a war. The Tea Party folks come with these wild notions about Czars, Marxism, Death Panels -- their understanding of these things is not based in fact.

    2) Size and scope of the protests.


    incorrect again. Are you saying government spending is not out of control, there is no deficit?
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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Do you think Scott Brown would have beaten a healthy and campaigning Ted Kennedy?
    Yup...........
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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