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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I think the whole topic of this thread deals with the fracture the Teabaggers are dealing with trying to find a common ground amongst their group as a whole.

    Initially, I thought it was a great movement with a LOT of potential. That is until the wingnuts hijacked it. Now it's just another Glenn Beck pep rally.

    It will be interesting to watch it go by the way of Air America.

    I am STILL longing for the day when the original intent of the Tea Party movement comes to fruition. But this attempt turned out to be a one-sided partisan joke.
    I too am hoping the moderates and independents find their voice. I would prefer they join the Whig party and make a third party go at it. See my sig to join.

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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    What are you talking about -- I've mentioned the rally I went to last April several times.

    Rev -- I've always tried to be straight with you -- In the past, I've given you honest answers to what I thought were honest questions.

    I know that, but I looked, I can't find any mention of it prior.



    If however, you do have something, I will publically apologize...

    But if you're going to start attacking like some of the hyper-partisan far-righters around here... I won't bother.

    I was intrigued at the notion of a populist movement inspired by the bailouts and polarization of congress, the lack of any real bipartisan effort by either side. They work for US. WE pay their salaries. So, I went to a rally.

    again, I read your posts, I don't see that you mentioned it before, I simply found it suspect. If I am wrong, I apologize.
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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by pugetsoundwa View Post
    Its not a Patriotic Movement. Its flash and a Act at best. As far as what kind of movement it is, I would sit on a toilet to be safe...
    I would hardly call a group of people, hating the majority of Americans, for their choice of direction they wish to see the country take, "patriotic." The opposite would be true in my opinion.

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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I think the whole topic of this thread deals with the fracture the Teabaggers are dealing with trying to find a common ground amongst their group as a whole.

    Initially, I thought it was a great movement with a LOT of potential. That is until the wingnuts hijacked it. Now it's just another Glenn Beck pep rally.

    It will be interesting to watch it go by the way of Air America.

    I am STILL longing for the day when the original intent of the Tea Party movement comes to fruition. But this attempt turned out to be a one-sided partisan joke.

    But honestly, who can blame mainstream Americans for losing interest in it? Who wants to go to a gathering of birthers, wingnuts, whiney malcontented America bashers and listen to them bitch and moan about imaginary "what-if's" and watch them spread their bull**** propaganda?

    true enough, look at the REFORM PARTY...what happened to them? They even had a State Gov as one of their own for a while. Jessie left them when they started in house fighting just as this movement is.

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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by pugetsoundwa View Post
    Spoken like J Edgar Hoover or is it Joseph McCarthy you emulate??



    I could ask you the same thing. You "teabagger" slur is an attempt to demean patriotic Americans who simply disagree with you...


    I was being facetious to point out the absurdity of your slur.... You were serious...


    So who is the intolerant one puge?
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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Give me time. Just got to this thread. I will look into what Pungent Sounds has to say and comment on it as soon as I can get to it.

    Relax Rev. We're still tight.



    bro, just cause we got a new influx of sissies, don't mean we can't banter at our usual clip.
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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I know that, but I looked, I can't find any mention of it prior.



    If however, you do have something, I will publically apologize...




    again, I read your posts, I don't see that you mentioned it before, I simply found it suspect. If I am wrong, I apologize.
    I don't remember if it was in a thread I started or someone else's, I wouldn't even know how to search for it. I vaguely remember mentioning it was in Westminster, CA and I was confronted by people who were extremely anti-Obama.

    Someone commented that I didn't stay long enough to really understand what was going on -- I don't think so. I had very little in common with those people as far as political views.

    Since then, I have seen little evidence that the movement has redefined itself as a true populist uprising against Federal Government misspending of tax revenue.

    A lot of what I see is the protesting of things that only exist in a hyper-partisan imagination-- a black and white mentality that dismisses anything lacking the seal of approval from a conservative pundit or GOP hard-liner.

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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Ah, so other posters DO have to notify you of everything they do. Well good. Now I know.

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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I too am hoping the moderates and independents find their voice. I would prefer they join the Whig party and make a third party go at it. See my sig to join.
    What "moderates"?

    You mean the fools that think the Constitution is a "living sheet of paper" that should crawl away and die because they don't want the government to obey the laws it contains?

    Or the "moderates" who want to have all the spending, so long as the rich are taxed enough to pay for it. Never mind that there aren't that many rich people, but it's what they want.

    The problem with the "moderate" position is that quicksand isn't a foundation to build on, nor are castles in the sky a wonderful idea, since the wind blows them every which way.

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    Re: Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I don't remember if it was in a thread I started or someone else's, I wouldn't even know how to search for it. I vaguely remember mentioning it was in Westminster, CA and I was confronted by people who were extremely anti-Obama.

    Someone commented that I didn't stay long enough to really understand what was going on -- I don't think so. I had very little in common with those people as far as political views.

    Since then, I have seen little evidence that the movement has redefined itself as a true populist uprising against Federal Government misspending of tax revenue.

    A lot of what I see is the protesting of things that only exist in a hyper-partisan imagination-- a black and white mentality that dismisses anything lacking the seal of approval from a conservative pundit or GOP hard-liner.



    well let me ask you this then. Do you see a difference between them and say the average war protester and thier rhetoric?



    There i a groundswell of dissatisfaction, not just with Obama, but congress, dems and repubs.... The tea party movement addresses that, We were no more happy with th bush bailouts than we were with the Obama bailouts, a fact hardly mentioned...

    Also if you did go to a tea party, you will also note the numerous anti-war libertarians attending said tea-parties, so to lump them all as a single far right wing movement is wrong. Perhaps the one, you say you went to, was an exception..... I don't know.

    But let me ask you, do you think using the slur "tea bagger" helps or hinders the conversation?


    Low taxes, government accountability, balanced budget, reduced government size....


    What is extreme about any of this?
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