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    Re: Many children taken by Americans not orphans

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What are you talking about?
    From the OP article:

    Laurentius Lelly, a 27-year-old computer technician, said he gave up his two children, ages 4 and 6, because Silsby had previously visited the area and earned people's trust.

    Lelly said he is no longer so sure about her trustworthiness, and said he was worried the Haitian judicial system would fail to properly investigate the case. No Haitian police or social welfare investigators have visited the village since the Americans were arrested at the border, the parents said.

    "I would like to find out if these people were really going to help the kids or were trying to steal them," Lelly said.

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    Re: Many children taken by Americans not orphans

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Which isn't much, if any at all.

    Get a clue - US law does not protect private US citizens traveling abroad in other sovereign nations. There at the mercy of the host nation.
    Dude, you get a clue okay? What I said is true, and haven't disputed the laws of other nations....you implied that. The Haitian govt is a bunch of crooks, and these people haven't been charged of anything.
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    Re: Many children taken by Americans not orphans

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Dude, you get a clue okay? What I said is true, and haven't disputed the laws of other nations....you implied that. The Haitian govt is a bunch of crooks, and these people haven't been charged of anything.
    Who cares if they're a bunch of crooks. These missionaries are still at their mercy. Maybe they should've thought about that before going there.

    Americans should think twice before visiting countries with corrupt governments.

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    Re: Many children taken by Americans not orphans

    Not to mention, there are procedures for removing children from their home country. Even after an earthquake, you're a dumbass if you don't follow them.

    Who is actually so stupid as to attempt to take a busload of children out of a country without some kind of paperwork or documentation? Seriously.

    They should be incarcerated for stupidity...except, unfortunately, that's not a chargeable offense.

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    Re: Many children taken by Americans not orphans

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Who is 'we'? 'We' couldn't do anything to the missionairies in Haiti since they are there on their own dime. Nevertheless, these people are American taxpaying citizens, and therefore have all the rights protected by the Constitution. So legally you have nothing to support your threat.
    i'm not suggesting WE do anything to them. that would be the perogative of the haitians, wouldn't it? and as far as i know, our constitutional rights mean diddly squat in haiti.

    i never made any kind of a threat, you should reread my post.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Many children taken by Americans not orphans

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    From the OP article:
    The orphanage worker, Issac Adrien, said he told the villagers their children would be educated at a home in the Dominican Republic so that they might eventually return to take care of their families.

    The parents of four children taken by Silsby said the Americans took down contact information for all the families and assured them that a relative would be able to visit them in the Dominican Republic.

    But a Haitian-born pastor who accompanied the Baptist group insisted Wednesday that the Americans had done nothing wrong, and that any with living parents had been sent with the knowledge they would have a better life and would still be able to see their relatives.
    "When we think orphanage, it's someone without a mother and father. In Haiti, it's not the case," the Rev. Jean Sainvil said, noting that many children in orphanages have been put there by parents who cannot care for their children.
    "These parents are homeless and hopeless," he said. "Everybody agreed that they knew where the children were going. The parents were told, and we confirmed they would be allowed to see the children and even take them back if need be."
    I think that your argument holds zero water. These people deserve the benefit of the doubt, at the least.
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    Re: Many children taken by Americans not orphans

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i'm not suggesting WE do anything to them. that would be the perogative of the haitians, wouldn't it? and as far as i know, our constitutional rights mean diddly squat in haiti.

    i never made any kind of a threat, you should reread my post.
    ....let them rot...?
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    Re: Many children taken by Americans not orphans

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You are so quick to take the word of a corrupt government that has kept these folks in poverty for decades, merely for political games.
    um, actually, i took the word of the villagers. again, did you read the story?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Many children taken by Americans not orphans

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Given the fact that "missionairies" have been providing all the help for all these years, doesn't give you the right to denegrate them because suddenly a new crisis there popped up on the MSM radar. If these were Obamanites I'm sure liblady would be promoting all kinds of excuses for them.
    you know what, american? just because you are hyper-partisan doesn't mean everybody else is.

    my post was not in any way about politics.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Many children taken by Americans not orphans

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think that your argument holds zero water. These people deserve the benefit of the doubt, at the least.
    That's what trials are for. I'm sure they'll get a fair trial in Haiti

    BTW, does Haitian law have presumption of innocence?

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