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    Re: China warns against Obama-Dalai Lama meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    And no doubt once the USA is out of Chinese debt the US powers that be, may well plant that foot.
    However until that particular fairy tale ending arrives, the USA will pretty much do what it is told to do.
    Or China will do what? Sell it all off, cause a devaluation of US currency and thus devalue their own U.S. dollar holdings? Not likely.
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    Re: China warns against Obama-Dalai Lama meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    China must never again become isolated, it is now and must always remain an integral Nation within the civilized group of nations.
    At what cost? When their government doesn't accept or play by the norms of civilized nations, how can the civilized world even begin to consider to treat with them on such equal basis?
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    Re: China warns against Obama-Dalai Lama meeting

    Didn't republicans complain back when Obama wasn't meeting the Dalai Lama?

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    Re: China warns against Obama-Dalai Lama meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I see that the problem being Russia becoming more and more important to the vitality and progression of Europe, as they control the energy pipelines and much of Western Europe and all of Eastern Europe relies on. This essentially means that Russia soon might have their iron fists around soft-European balls.

    The incursion of the United States attempting to build a missile defense system in Poland surely annoyed Russia, but even worse, it spooked Russia a bit too. The real question seems to be whether or not Russia is looking for an opportunity to prove itself in wake of the United States declining economy. They cannot be entirely trusted.

    China, on the other hand, has it's Red-hand on our softening balls. Its emerging capitalist economy appears to be both good for the United States and bad for the United States, as it is more willingly to play ball (i.e. loan and own our debt). We have a real issue with China's social sphere, and the United States is cautious about relying on such a system. They are, however, necessary for their influence on the North Korean regime (especially as the regime will shortly transition, that's right I say within the next 3-5 years Kim Jong-Il is gonna die).

    I would not take the Chinese warning as anything but rhetoric.
    The Chinese won't do zilch.....
    All of Europe would be speaking Russian if it were not for the US...
    Not only did we bail Europe out of WWI & II, we did it in the cold war too....
    If the US does not keep the pressure on the Soviets, Europe will fall in short order.....
    The Germans might put up a fight, but the rest will kow tow....

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    Re: China warns against Obama-Dalai Lama meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    China must never again become isolated, it is now and must always remain an integral Nation within the civilized group of nations.
    Why is that exactly?


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    Re: China warns against Obama-Dalai Lama meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    The Chinese won't do zilch.....
    All of Europe would be speaking Russian if it were not for the US...
    Not only did we bail Europe out of WWI & II, we did it in the cold war too....
    If the US does not keep the pressure on the Soviets, Europe will fall in short order.....
    The Germans might put up a fight, but the rest will kow tow....
    The UK will not kow tow to ANYBODY.

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    Re: China warns against Obama-Dalai Lama meeting

    I hope Obama meets the Dalai Lama.

    And I think China's appalling human rights record should get more attention from the rest of the world. In fact, maybe Obama should tell the Chinese leaders that if they give him a hard time at the UN he and the Europeans will start taking a closer look at what China is doing to Tibet and also to their own people.

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    Re: China warns against Obama-Dalai Lama meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    The UK will not kow tow to ANYBODY.
    Except give up Hong Kong when Deng Xiaoping gives Margaret Thatcher a good old fashioned Chinese dressing down...
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    Re: China warns against Obama-Dalai Lama meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel View Post
    I hope Obama meets the Dalai Lama.

    And I think China's appalling human rights record should get more attention from the rest of the world. In fact, maybe Obama should tell the Chinese leaders that if they give him a hard time at the UN he and the Europeans will start taking a closer look at what China is doing to Tibet and also to their own people.
    Somehow, I don't see any of this happening.
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    Re: China warns against Obama-Dalai Lama meeting

    I wish the Western world would grow a pair and acknowledge the Dalai Lama as the true leader of the Tibetans. But the truth is that our governments don't really give a toss. Our governments supressed the natives of our own nations savagely. Why would they care if a foreign power is doing it to indigenous people in their side of the world?

    The whole situation is ****ed. It's why I left China and didn't look back. The situation in Xinjiang is just as bad. No one cares about the welfare of other humans, until it is they who are at the end of the bayonette. Then suddenly it matters.

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