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    McCain appears to shift on 'don't ask, don't tell'

    McCain appears to shift on 'don't ask, don't tell'

    Three years ago, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) was pretty clear about his stand on the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. A former war hero, McCain said he would support ending the ban once the military's top brass told him that they agreed with the change.

    "The day that the leadership of the military comes to me and says, 'Senator, we ought to change the policy,' then I think we ought to consider seriously changing it," McCain said in October 2006 to an audience of Iowa State University students.

    That day arrived Tuesday, with Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Joint Chiefs Chairman Mike Mullen testifying to senators after President Obama's announcement that he would seek a congressional repeal of the 15-year-old policy.

    Mullen called repealing the policy, which bans openly gay men and lesbians from serving, "the right thing to do" and said he was personally troubled by effectively forcing service members to "lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens."

    Gates told the Armed Services Committee, "I fully support the president's decision."

    In response, McCain declared himself "disappointed" in the testimony. "At this moment of immense hardship for our armed services, we should not be seeking to overturn the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy," he said bluntly, before describing it as "imperfect but effective."

    Since losing to Obama in the 2008 election, McCain has become a consistent critic of the president. He also has, for the first time in years, a serious primary fight on his hands.

    McCain spokeswoman Brooke Buchanan said her boss has not shifted his position.

    She noted that Mullen said repeatedly that he was speaking for himself and not for the military, and she dismissed Gates's testimony because he was expressing the Obama administration's line.

    "There has to be a determination from our military leaders that they think it is a good idea to change the policy; then, of course, Senator McCain will listen to them."
    I suppose ignoring/denying one's own words and convictions could be considered "mavericky."

    I wonder if McCain's growing battle for his Congressional seat has anything to do with it?

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    Re: McCain appears to shift on 'don't ask, don't tell'

    That's not a shift - that's him being as he always has been when it comes to military policies: favoring the majority opinion. If he changes his mind because he believes in favoring the majority opinion in the military then that's great.

    I like him for this quality - many politicians don't ever reconsider their stance.

    at least McCain puts the decisions where they should be - in the hands of those who impliment and make the rules and run the show.
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    Re: McCain appears to shift on 'don't ask, don't tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    That's not a shift - that's him being as he always has been when it comes to military policies: favoring the majority opinion. If he changes his mind because he believes in favoring the majority opinion in the military then that's great.

    I like him for this quality - many politicians don't ever reconsider their stance.

    at least McCain puts the decisions where they should be - in the hands of those who impliment and make the rules and run the show.
    and that's just bullcrap. in fact,

    do the majority agree with don't ask don't tell?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: McCain appears to shift on 'don't ask, don't tell'

    LOL - I meant to say that's not a "bad" shift.

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    Re: McCain appears to shift on 'don't ask, don't tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    and that's just bullcrap. in fact,

    do the majority agree with don't ask don't tell?
    My husband and countless others I know have no problems with it - they are beginning ot see that it's more trouble than it's worth and just removes good soldiers from the field while keeping the crappy ones around.
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    Re: McCain appears to shift on 'don't ask, don't tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    LOL - I meant to say that's not a "bad" shift.

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    Keep posting away, we all have days like that.
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    Re: McCain appears to shift on 'don't ask, don't tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    My husband and countless others I know have no problems with it - they are beginning ot see that it's more trouble than it's worth and just removes good soldiers from the field while keeping the crappy ones around.
    i think you've misunderstood what mccain has done here, then. he's AGAINST abolishing DADT, he's flipflopped, and not for the majority of the military. in other words, he's campaigning.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: McCain appears to shift on 'don't ask, don't tell'

    You're right - I did misread!

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    Re: McCain appears to shift on 'don't ask, don't tell'

    McCain learned an important lesson in 2008, which is that he needs the support of the far right. This is an important issue to many of the far right, hence I suspect his comments.
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    Re: McCain appears to shift on 'don't ask, don't tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    I suppose ignoring/denying one's own words and convictions could be considered "mavericky."

    I wonder if McCain's growing battle for his Congressional seat has anything to do with it?
    No, more like this is McCain, and why he didn't inspire the Conservative base. Not this issue, but his inability to stick to his guns, to hold to his principles, to be someone that could be trusted.

    His stance changes with the winds.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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