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McCain appears to shift on 'don't ask, don't tell'

Winnb said:
If he didn't inspire the conservative base then why did they elect him in the primaries to run for President?
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The primary system is fubar. That's why.
 
MrVicchio said:
The primary system is fubar. That's why.
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Well I don't think I can argue with that.

My only point is that I constantly hear GOP supporters complaining about RINOs and the party not being conservative enough. Yet when they had a chance to elect a conservative to run for President they didn't.

I don't get it.
 
Personally, I'm thrilled with his words. These are excellent circumstances upon which to make a shift.
 
aps said:
Personally, I'm thrilled with his words. These are excellent circumstances upon which to make a shift.
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:confused: I'm extremely surprised to hear you say that.
 
Glinda said:
I suppose ignoring/denying one's own words and convictions could be considered "mavericky." ;)

I wonder if McCain's growing battle for his Congressional seat has anything to do with it?
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Thats McRino trying to pretend he is a conservative for votes. McRino knows that libs are losing so he is desperate to try to keep his seat. Next thing you know he will say he is against illegal immigration, supports water boarding,Doesn't believe in the man made global warming fairy tale, and many other things that contradict what he has said, attempted to do or have done in the past. Hopefully suckers do not fall for it and vote his ass out. Romney did the same thing when he ran in the presidential primaries, basically he pretend that he was no longer a liberal so he can get votes.



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jamesrage said:
Thats McRino trying to pretend he is a conservative for votes. McRino knows that libs are losing so he is desperate to try to keep his seat. Next thing you know he will say he is against illegal immigration, supports water boarding,Doesn't believe in the man made global warming fairy tale, and many other things that contradict what he has said, attempted to do or have done in the past. Hopefully suckers do not fall for it and vote his ass out. Romney did the same thing when he ran in the presidential primaries, basically he pretend that he was no longer a liberal so he can get votes.

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Right on, on all points! McCain has been flip flopping on every issue since the days of his exaggerations of his POW experience, his "Top Gun" flying days and how he "turned down an Admiral star"! I never understood who was voting for this guy.
 
ADK_Forever said:
Right on, on all points! McCain has been flip flopping on every issue since the days of his exaggerations of his POW experience, his "Top Gun" flying days and how he "turned down an Admiral star"! I never understood who was voting for this guy.
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It's "Mavericky".
 
liblady said:
i don't think that's true, navy.
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With all due respect to Navy, and his insistence that he "feels the pulse" of the Navy... I think he is as close to today's sailors' real pulse as my father was to my generation. Each successive generation has been hugely more tolerant than their parents'. Everybody who was ever in the military knows damn well that this has been the reality for scores of years and all branches have tolerated gays and lesbians. If this law was repealed I don't think any branch of the military would have an insurmountable time with it. Well, maybe the Marines. :cool:
 
Aunt Spiker said:
That's not a shift - that's him being as he always has been when it comes to military policies: favoring the majority opinion. If he changes his mind because he believes in favoring the majority opinion in the military then that's great.

I like him for this quality - many politicians don't ever reconsider their stance.

at least McCain puts the decisions where they should be - in the hands of those who impliment and make the rules and run the show.
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Funny how that used to be called "flip-flopping" or changing your position with the political wind. Funny how when repubs do it it's a good thing, they're just becoming more wise and adjusting their position. But when dems do it, it shows that they are weak and willing to change position to get elected.

Ever notice that?
 
ADK_Forever said:
Right on, on all points! McCain has been flip flopping on every issue since the days of his exaggerations of his POW experience, his "Top Gun" flying days and how he "turned down an Admiral star"! I never understood who was voting for this guy.
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The people who vote for him are suckers who think that a republican no matter how ****ed up he is or how liberal he is.They think that somehow a liberal republican is better than any democrat any day of the week. They are to chicken to risk loosing the seat to a democrat even thought by voting for a liberal republican every time they are basically getting the same thing as though they voted for a democrat.Some voters just toe the party line regardless if their party is right or wrong.

And some voters are just stupid enough to fall for a politician's tricks.Those politicians are like telemarketers most people do not fall for their tricks but enough people do in order to make it worthwhile.
 
Glinda said:
I suppose ignoring/denying one's own words and convictions could be considered "mavericky." ;)

I wonder if McCain's growing battle for his Congressional seat has anything to do with it?
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Mullen gave his personal views, not the views of his station or the views of the military as a whole. So I dont see what your point here is exactly?
 
OxymoronP said:
Mullen gave his personal views, not the views of his station or the views of the military as a whole. So I dont see what your point here is exactly?
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How does one give the views of the military as a whole? We've heard from all the top brass, do you need every private to agree as well?
 
OxymoronP said:
No, I would accept an official position from Mullen, not his personal views.
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How does it become an "official position"? Seriously, I'm not trying to be snide. I really don't know. He apparently has the support of the Secretary of Defense and the Commander-in-Chief... what else does he need to make it "official"?
 
Groucho said:
How does it become an "official position"? Seriously, I'm not trying to be snide. I really don't know. He apparently has the support of the Secretary of Defense and the Commander-in-Chief... what else does he need to make it "official"?
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Well I understand your point, but he did state his personal opinion. His opinion could be that the war in Iraq is wrong, but his official position would be much different. If Mullen met with the Joint chiefs, and layed out a military position on this issue then that would be official. His personal opinion is just that, a personal opinion and does not reflect the Military or his official position. I hope I made my position clear.
 
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