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    NL Premier Williams Set to Have Heart Surgery in US

    N.L. Premier Williams set to have heart surgery in U.S.

    Newfoundland Premier Danny Williams will undergo heart surgery later this week in the United States.

    Deputy premier Kathy Dunderdale confirmed the treatment at a news conference Tuesday, but would not reveal the location of the operation or how it would be paid for.

    "He has gone to a renowned expert in the procedure that he needs to have done," said Ms. Dunderdale, who will become acting premier while Mr. Williams is away for three to 12 weeks.

    "In consultation with his own doctors, he's decided to go that route."

    Mr. Williams' decision to leave Canada for the surgery has raised eyebrows over his apparent shunning of Canada's health-care system.

    "It was never an option offered to him to have this procedure done in this province," said Ms. Dunderdale, refusing to answer whether the procedure could be done elsewhere in Canada.

    Mr. Williams, 59, has said nothing of his health in the media.

    "The premier has made a commitment that once he's through this procedure and he's well enough, he's going to talk about the whole process and share as much detail with you as he's comfortable to do at that time," she said.

    Ms. Dunderdale wouldn't say where in the U.S. Mr. Williams is seeking treatment.

    A popular Progressive Conservative premier, Mr. Williams has also seen his share of controversy. During the 2008 federal election, Mr. Williams vehemently opposed the Conservative government, launching his "Anything But Conservative" -- which has been credited with keeping the Tories from winning any seats in the province.

    He's also drawn criticism for his support of the seal hunt.
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    Re: NL Premier Williams Set to Have Heart Surgery in US

    Why no comment?

    He's probably just coming here like all "illegals" do to get free health care.

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    Re: NL Premier Williams Set to Have Heart Surgery in US

    Look, the only time some Americans give a **** about Canada is when something happens here that helps their point of view! The rest of the time they probably don't care and likely don't know much about this country. Right-wingers who are opposed to government health care cherry pick the bad stuff, or downsides, and ignore all the good things about Canada's universal health care system.

    I'm tired of my country being the whipping boy for partisan American interests! Do we do some things better than the US? Sure. Are we perfect? No, and we never claimed to be. We know we have problems that need to be sorted out, but we're trying to deal with them. /rant
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    Re: NL Premier Williams Set to Have Heart Surgery in US

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentM View Post
    Look, the only time some Americans give a **** about Canada is when something happens here that helps their point of view! The rest of the time they probably don't care and likely don't know much about this country. Right-wingers who are opposed to government health care cherry pick the bad stuff, or downsides, and ignore all the good things about Canada's universal health care system.
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    Why do you think the premier is choosing to seek care in America?

    If we had universal care, then where would the poor man go? India?
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    Re: NL Premier Williams Set to Have Heart Surgery in US

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
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    Why do you think the premier is choosing to seek care in America?

    If we had universal care, then where would he have to go? India?
    Keep in mind that until very recently, Newfoundland was a poor province! They likely have not had the resources to fund their medical services as properly as maybe they should have. NF only recently changed from a "Have-Not" to a "Have" province. We have universal health care in Canada, but the health care systems and quality varies province to province, because health care is a provincial jurisdiction in Canada.
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    Re: NL Premier Williams Set to Have Heart Surgery in US

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentM View Post
    Keep in mind that until very recently, Newfoundland was a poor province! They likely have not had the resources to fund their medical services as properly as maybe they should have. NF only recently changed from a "Have-Not" to a "Have" province. We have universal health care in Canada, but the health care systems and quality varies province to province, because health care is a provincial jurisdiction in Canada.
    Why not go to another province?
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    Re: NL Premier Williams Set to Have Heart Surgery in US

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentM View Post
    Look, the only time some Americans give a **** about Canada is when something happens here that helps their point of view! The rest of the time they probably don't care and likely don't know much about this country. Right-wingers who are opposed to government health care cherry pick the bad stuff, or downsides, and ignore all the good things about Canada's universal health care system.

    I'm tired of my country being the whipping boy for partisan American interests! Do we do some things better than the US? Sure. Are we perfect? No, and we never claimed to be. We know we have problems that need to be sorted out, but we're trying to deal with them. /rant
    It's true, Americans love to cherry pick Canada. You're so close and so friendly. You guys should just invade and take the Dakotas or something. I'm sure they're undefended, what with 90% of our military spread out all over the damn planet protecting our corporate interests.

    But seriously, I'll believe America has a better health care system than Canada when I see Canada switch to our system.
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    Re: NL Premier Williams Set to Have Heart Surgery in US

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Why not go to another province?
    Because:
    "He has gone to a renowned expert in the procedure that he needs to have done."...
    And said expert is in the U.S.
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    Re: NL Premier Williams Set to Have Heart Surgery in US

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Why not go to another province?
    I don't know, in Canada Canadians and others who legally reside here are guaranteed access to health care treatment in other provinces at no additional expense (your home province pays for it I believe). However, I'm not sure how the waiting list system works for surgeries (non-emergency surgery); like whether or not you can get on waiting lists for surgery in other provinces when your own province should be providing you care (i.e. you're not visiting another province). Now that I think about it, I actually kind of doubt that they would allow province-hopping for care options. But I would have to look into that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    But seriously, I'll believe America has a better health care system than Canada when I see Canada switch to our system.
    There are certainly a few benefits of the US system over Canada's, I'm not going to deny that. But we Canadians like our universal health care overall. It would be political suicide for any politician to even suggest ditching it!
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