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    Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    WASHINGTON – The military's top uniformed officer on Tuesday made an impassioned plea for allowing gays to serve openly in uniform, telling a Senate panel it was a matter of integrity and that it is wrong to force people to "lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens."


    The comments by Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, set the stage for the Defense Department's yearlong study into how the ban can be repealed without causing a major upheaval in the military.
    I don't know how many times I have heard the expression "Let's let the generals decide this issue". Well, the top general (actually, an admiral - same thing), has spoken. He is not only an Admiral, but is CHAIRMAN of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    Will I now hear "Let's let generals other than the ones who disagree with me decide the issue"? Or will I hear "Let's let some random privates decide the issue, as long as they don't disagree with me"? Or possibly "Let's get an opinion from military cooks, as long as they don't disagree with me"?

    Here is the way I see it -

    1) If someone wants to defend the United States against its enemies, I don't care if he or she is gay, or straight, or whatever. Besides, his or her sexual orientation is none of my damn business, unless he or she is disrupting other troops by hitting on them. There are rules for that already in the military for straights. They will apply to gays too.

    2) If gays serve in the military, I will also thank them for their service, because I love my country, and I know they do too.

    To those who don't like the idea of gays serving in the military, you might as well prepare to accept it. It is going to happen sooner or later, and it is going to be a benefit to our military, rather than a liability.

    Article is here.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Gays should be able to join the army because the army is the safe-guard of the nation, if you are denied the right to protect your nation, then you are consequentially denied the right to stand for your country, for your family, and for your ideas.

    Cannot believe the side of the equation who are obsessed with the 2nd Amendment would disallow a man to protect his nation.

    Lets move forward with this. Grant homosexuals the basic right to national defense, for ****s sake.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Its "Lets let the generals decide"....until the generals decide something that we don't like...then lets let someone else decide.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    It is up to congress not the military.


    FOXNews.com - Gates Backs Repeal of &#39;Don&#39;t Ask, Don&#39;t Tell&#39;


    But Gates cautioned Tuesday that no matter how much the Pentagon studies the issue, the "ultimate decision" rests with Congress.

    A senior Pentagon official earlier told Fox News it does not appear the votes are there in Congress to actually change the law, but said it is not the Pentagon's role to get involved in that aspect.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    I couldn't disagree with all the false claims Homosexuals make about how they are the victim of some gene, or any of the other nonsense they and others come up with.
    I have a brother who was in the Army and was kicked out for being a homosexual. He now has AIDS and is dying, so I know a little about it. I hate the whole idea but I'm not worried that it's catching. I don't know any heterosexuals who go around bragging about it. Except for a few guys who like to talk about there score card. I doesn't come up in normal conversation that I have seen unless someone is hitting on someone else and that can be a real problem for some people.

    Way too much time is and has been spent talking about this. There are rules that say if a male is caught having sex with a female on the base, the ship, or while on duty they are punished for it. That is the only rule they need, and the punishment should be extra duty not being kicked out of the service. A few homosexuals are good at what they do and it has nothing to do with Broadway Show tunes, or interior decorating.

    We need to be focused on stopping the economic ruin of the Nation right now. Obama is coming up with really stupid things to divert our attention away from what he's doing.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I don't know how many times I have heard the expression "Let's let the generals decide this issue". Well, the top general (actually, an admiral - same thing), has spoken. He is not only an Admiral, but is CHAIRMAN of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    Will I now hear "Let's let generals other than the ones who disagree with me decide the issue"? Or will I hear "Let's let some random privates decide the issue, as long as they don't disagree with me"? Or possibly "Let's get an opinion from military cooks, as long as they don't disagree with me"?

    Here is the way I see it -

    1) If someone wants to defend the United States against its enemies, I don't care if he or she is gay, or straight, or whatever. Besides, his or her sexual orientation is none of my damn business, unless he or she is disrupting other troops by hitting on them. There are rules for that already in the military for straights. They will apply to gays too.

    2) If gays serve in the military, I will also thank them for their service, because I love my country, and I know they do too.

    To those who don't like the idea of gays serving in the military, you might as well prepare to accept it. It is going to happen sooner or later, and it is going to be a benefit to our military, rather than a liability.

    Article is here.
    http://cmrlink.org/CMRDocuments/FGOM...87)-033109.pdf

    List includes two former CJCS.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I don't know how many times I have heard the expression "Let's let the generals decide this issue". Well, the top general (actually, an admiral - same thing), has spoken. He is not only an Admiral, but is CHAIRMAN of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    Will I now hear "Let's let generals other than the ones who disagree with me decide the issue"? Or will I hear "Let's let some random privates decide the issue, as long as they don't disagree with me"? Or possibly "Let's get an opinion from military cooks, as long as they don't disagree with me"?

    Here is the way I see it -

    1) If someone wants to defend the United States against its enemies, I don't care if he or she is gay, or straight, or whatever. Besides, his or her sexual orientation is none of my damn business, unless he or she is disrupting other troops by hitting on them. There are rules for that already in the military for straights. They will apply to gays too.

    2) If gays serve in the military, I will also thank them for their service, because I love my country, and I know they do too.

    To those who don't like the idea of gays serving in the military, you might as well prepare to accept it. It is going to happen sooner or later, and it is going to be a benefit to our military, rather than a liability.

    Article is here.
    Let the enlisted people aboard ship decide........Mullin is clueless......He does not have the same hardship and E1 thru E6 has.........He has his own stateroom and shower.............Not the same for enlisted personnel..
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    good decision. most people in the military, i believe, don't have an issue with it.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Let the enlisted people aboard ship decide........Mullin is clueless......He does not have the same hardship and E1 thru E6 has.........He has his own stateroom and shower.............Not the same for enlisted personnel..
    Yeah. And while we're at it, let's let servicemen decide whether they can join segregated or integrated military units.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Cannot believe the side of the equation who are obsessed with the 2nd Amendment would disallow a man to protect his nation.
    It's not that hard to believe. They favor the 2nd amendment, but mostly for themselves, and not so much for those who are different.

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