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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Enlisted people make decisins all the time........They are the ones the policy affects....they should have a say in it................
    When I served, enlisted had absolutely no say in policy-making.

    But, if what the enlisted think about gays in the military is of concern:

    "Results of an Internet poll released Tuesday show most serving in the military approve of working with openly gay service members.

    The Washington, D.C., and New York City-based Zogby International Poll revealed 73 percent of military members are comfortable with gays."

    Poll: Most Troops Support Gays in Military | Palm Center

    I served openly gay, along with several others, and no one cared. The people who do care are the minority.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    I say, the Admiral's premise is flawed. No one is "lying about who they are". It's don't ask don't tell, no one is lying about who they are because no one is asking. Seems easy to follow, Hell, it should just be common sense. You do know how easy it is to get shot if your cameo is rainbow colored.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    All I can say is that you better not be openly gay if captured in Afghanistan. They have a different view on things over there.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No you won't. You should learn about the military before you insult the fine people who serve.
    LOL..served for ten years USMC...ACTIVE duty. You should ask before assuming. Your right they are fine people but, I also know what happens to military personnel when they are discovered as being homosexual..

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Australianlibertarian View Post
    And yet they are already serving with homosexuals. You know, eating with homosexuals, showering with homosexuals, making dick jokes infront of homosexuals. It seems like you assume that DADT has kept homosexuals out of the military, and now open service is going to bring everything crashing down....
    Yes they probably are, but most keep it to themselves and those who don't usually get beat when caught alone. I have stood with my ExCO/SNCO's in quite a few Court Martial in this regard against those who have been caught for both assaulting a homosexuals and those being caught as a homosexuals.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    All I can say is that you better not be openly gay if captured in Afghanistan. They have a different view on things over there.
    Matters not, since any American captured would mostly be tortured and then beheaded.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Matters not, since any American captured would mostly be tortured and then beheaded.
    And then only if you're a male. Course...the Taliban nor al-Qaeda nor militant Islam want to capture and photo a woman. You ain't gonna see no Nick Berg(still the most horrifying thing I've seen on the internet besides 9-11), you ain't gonna see no Daniel Pearl murder, you ain't gonna see the soldier if it's a female.

    Imagine....these militants dragging a woman's naked body behind a pickup truck....imagine just for a moment...Daniel Pearl being cute lil Katie Couric.....

    You want to speak to waking a sleeping giant.....Americans would cut through Afghanistan like Sherman through Atlanta, it won't be pretty.

    Where I agree with the hare here, it matters not....orientation makes no difference.....gender does. TV cameras filming an American lesbian being defiled or her corpse desecrated...and you'll see wholesale slaughter on the part of Americans. It be a mother or some very young terrified face...we'd probably drop a nuke.

    I understand it, it still don't make it right. Anyone want to know who we're really fighting, watch the Nick Berg video if it's still available. Our enemies are determined and terrible.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    LOL..served for ten years USMC...ACTIVE duty. You should ask before assuming. Your right they are fine people but, I also know what happens to military personnel when they are discovered as being homosexual..
    Well no, you have a very very low opinion of our service people if you think they would commit murder over something that is none of their business and does not effect them.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    I think they should ban gays in the military. Also blacks are inferior, so they should not be allowed in a leading role... latrine diggers and labours is no problem. No women of course! Their role is to make babies after all and look pretty. And of course no Muslims, they are the enemy along with the commies. No Arabs either, because they cant be trusted. And we cant have those shady Jews in the military either since they are just Arabs also.

    Think that should cover it.....











    and for those that think I am at all serious and not ironic need their heads examined.

    This debate is and always has been based on religious dogma and has never made any sense what so ever in the civilized world. But as usual the conservative parts of society defend discrimatory practices tooth and nail.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    and for those that think I am at all serious .
    We've never taken as serious the blatherings from across the pond, Pete! Nothing personal, we already declared independence, we already altered and changed the course of history, we've learned all we can from our Euro neighbors. We appreciate the take under wing approach, we'll handle things from here, thanks.
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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