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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    I didn't look at any these are just the ones I have seen from my past unit. I don't doubt that some have been kicked out that wanted to stay in. I also belive that some of those that say they didn't want out actually did.
    Is that assumption based on your extensive analysis of this issue?
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Is that assumption based on your extensive analysis of this issue?
    I to have seen this happen but in defense of the counter argument, I guess it depends on when we all served. I different set of circumstances in my day.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Is that assumption based on your extensive analysis of this issue?
    Do you really think that no gay person has ever wanted a quick way out of the military and decided to use DADT as his way out. I have seen straight people use it so why would gays be any different.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    If they get rid of the DADT they would then have to address the UCMJ.

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    Soldiers may be discharged from the Army before their normal expiration of term of service (ETS). Reasons for such discharge include--

    * Misconduct.
    * Conviction by a civilian court.
    * Unsatisfactory performance.
    * Hardship and dependency.
    * Void and voidable enlistments or inductions.
    * Alcohol or drug abuse.
    * Conscientious objection.
    * The good of the service.
    * The convenience of the government.
    * Fraudulent entry.
    * Homosexuality.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    If they get rid of the DADT they would then have to address the UCMJ.

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    REASONS FOR SEPARATIONS

    Soldiers may be discharged from the Army before their normal expiration of term of service (ETS). Reasons for such discharge include--

    * Misconduct.
    * Conviction by a civilian court.
    * Unsatisfactory performance.
    * Hardship and dependency.
    * Void and voidable enlistments or inductions.
    * Alcohol or drug abuse.
    * Conscientious objection.
    * The good of the service.
    * The convenience of the government.
    * Fraudulent entry.
    * Homosexuality.
    So you are saying that in order to change military regulations, Congress would have to change military regulations? Brilliant insight!
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So you are saying that in order to change military regulations, Congress would have to change military regulations? Brilliant insight!
    The congress has to address the DADT. In 1950 under Truman the congress passed the UCMJ so it takes congress or the commander in chief to change it.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    It's like we have a choice between the party of stall or the party of crawl.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    I watched the hearings of the Armed Services Committee this morning on DADT held on Tuesday and Senator McCain had a listing of 1100 Flag and General Officers that were against the repeal of DADT...That sort of trumps Mullins and Gates.......Looks to me this is going to be a fight between the Right and the left in the Senate and I was glad to see Senator Webb From Va. a democrat step up and join the people on the right on his issue..........
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