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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Enlisted serviceman's job is not to make decisions about the Military as a whole, their job is to do what is asked of them.

    Of all people who should be mistaken of military roles...
    Enlisted people make decisins all the time........They are the ones the policy affects....they should have a say in it................
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Well, gee. You weren't slamming him like this before when you posted this:



    Post number 180 in this thread
    . So, tell me, do you think the reaction of the joint chiefs at the Obama speech is still what you thought it was? Or do you believe they are not now worth using to prop up your argument, when you clearly used them to prop up your argument before today? Or could it be that they can only be used to prop up your arguments as long as they appear to be on your side during a discussion, and conveniently discarded when they don't? It appears you want it both ways here.

    I don't think we will have to worry about this issue for a couple of years...I just heardd on the news that they don't have the votes in the congres to change the law now.........come the mid terms in November it will be much worse..............
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I hate to burst your bubble for all you "Feel good libs" that want DADT overturned but DADT won't be settled for a couple years and even with all the dems in the congress today they are way short of the votes needed to overturn it and by November it will be much worse because according to polls the GOP is expected to pick up a bunch of seats in the congress........I just heard this on CBS news hardly a bastion for conservative issues.............
    Any President can overturn DADT via executive order as his role as Commander-in-Chief.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Yeah. And while we're at it, let's let servicemen decide whether they can join segregated or integrated military units.

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    What a smoking mirror....You usually do better then that..........
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Enlisted people make decisins all the time........They are the ones the policy affects....they should have a say in it................
    They are allowed to make decisions of moral judgment (rules of engagement type stuff). They aren't allowed to make decisions of policy.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    How prominent are racial jokes and slurs? If they're as prominent as homosexual jokes and slurs, it probably wouldn't be a problem.
    I dont hear them near as often as gay jokes. There are not as many minoritys in the special ops community as most other branches of the military so that may have something to do with it.
    President Franklin Roosevelt eulogized a fallen American Soldier by saying, “He stands in the unbroken line of patriots who have dared to die [that] freedom might live, and grow, and increase its blessings. Freedom lives, and through it he lives--in a way that humbles the undertakings of most men."

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    If opposite sex attraction challenged people are openly allowed in the military, I think there should be some changes in the lodging set-up. Everyone should get their own room when able.

    Additionally some other rules should be changed: right now in some bases in southwest Asia, where thousands of military people are there on temporary duty assignments, it is basically a crime for a man to be in a woman’s room or vice versa. This is to prevent potential sexual relations from occurring, however, for opposite sex attraction challenged people there are no such restrictions.
    Spending money on tons of new quarters is not something the military should be doing right now. There are way to many other things the military needs to be buying instead of new barracks. That is part of what I was talking about earlier about no special treatment.
    President Franklin Roosevelt eulogized a fallen American Soldier by saying, “He stands in the unbroken line of patriots who have dared to die [that] freedom might live, and grow, and increase its blessings. Freedom lives, and through it he lives--in a way that humbles the undertakings of most men."

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Let the enlisted people aboard ship decide........Mullin is clueless......He does not have the same hardship and E1 thru E6 has.........He has his own stateroom and shower.............Not the same for enlisted personnel..
    Not only should gays serve aboard ship, but they should be in charge of the towels and showers. Hey. who's that sailor watching you and what's going through his mind? ..LOL

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Enlisted people make decisins all the time........They are the ones the policy affects....they should have a say in it................
    They should also get to decide how long they can grow their hair, when they need to polish their shoes, and if they should salute officers

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Any President can overturn DADT via executive order as his role as Commander-in-Chief.
    A president can not change a law.........That is what the congress is for.......
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