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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    How would you know? Like I said, those Generals have been down there with the troops. If those top Generals see a need for change they have very good reasons for it. The cave men below them will just have to follow their new orders and man up... or be disciplined or then kicked out themselves. We don't need any kind of phobes in the military or anywhere.
    Maybe because I am in the Army and know how things in the Army work. I know the kind of bs we have to put up with when even a 1 star comes around.
    I was in language school when the SOCOM commander came to visit. They wouldn't let any of us out of the our classrooms for any reason and they had Majors standing at all the entrances to make sure noone came in. Now keep in mind we were all NCOs and Captins about to graduate the Q course. And they did all this to make sure none of us would say something that they didn't want the Admiral to hear. So you tell me how much interaction a general has with the average private or Sgt. If you don't interact with the troops than how do you know what they think.
    President Franklin Roosevelt eulogized a fallen American Soldier by saying, “He stands in the unbroken line of patriots who have dared to die [that] freedom might live, and grow, and increase its blessings. Freedom lives, and through it he lives--in a way that humbles the undertakings of most men."

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Bush did leave an unparalleled pile of tidying up to be urgently dealt with. The collapse of the world economic system and stuff.
    Now Bush is responsible for the whole world economic system?

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    Maybe because I am in the Army and know how things in the Army work. I know the kind of bs we have to put up with when even a 1 star comes around.
    I was in language school when the SOCOM commander came to visit. They wouldn't let any of us out of the our classrooms for any reason and they had Majors standing at all the entrances to make sure noone came in. Now keep in mind we were all NCOs and Captins about to graduate the Q course. And they did all this to make sure none of us would say something that they didn't want the Admiral to hear. So you tell me how much interaction a general has with the average private or Sgt. If you don't interact with the troops than how do you know what they think.
    Your story reminded me of one time when then Vice President Spiro Agnew was flying into our base. Our commander had inspections of our barracks before the arrival just in case Agnew wanted to inspect our barracks.
    Even as a 19 year old I had enough common sense with me to know that during the height of the Viet Nam Conflict that Agnew probably had more things on his mind than how my room looked.
    The military is just one step to the side of normalcy.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Your story reminded me of one time when then Vice President Spiro Agnew was flying into our base. Our commander had inspections of our barracks before the arrival just in case Agnew wanted to inspect our barracks.
    Even as a 19 year old I had enough common sense with me to know that during the height of the Viet Nam Conflict that Agnew probably had more things on his mind than how my room looked.
    The military is just one step to the side of normalcy.
    Lol. Tell me about it. A few years back Bush came to Ft. Bragg while I was there. I was very glad I was just there for training and not stationed there. The craziness that went on most civilians would never belive.
    President Franklin Roosevelt eulogized a fallen American Soldier by saying, “He stands in the unbroken line of patriots who have dared to die [that] freedom might live, and grow, and increase its blessings. Freedom lives, and through it he lives--in a way that humbles the undertakings of most men."

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    How would you know? Like I said, those Generals have been down there with the troops.
    How would you know?

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    Lol. Tell me about it. A few years back Bush came to Ft. Bragg while I was there. I was very glad I was just there for training and not stationed there. The craziness that went on most civilians would never belive.
    General [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mattis"]General Mattis[/ame] was touring a training exercise that my unit was involved in and he stopped by my squad. He wanted to give some enlisted Marines a chance to ask him a question. I asked him about the Iraqi police and he noticed I wasn't wearing any rank.

    "Are you a private?"

    *I look down at my blouse where my rank should be*

    "Oh! No, sir, I'm a lance corporal. I don't wear my rank when I train because my flak pushes it into my collar bones."

    *He looks somewhat puzzled, then grins slightly*

    "Huh. Okay, well to answer your question..."



    This was my squad leader...


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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    If you don't interact with the troops than how do you know what they think.
    I think you should pose this question to Navy Pride.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    I think you should pose this question to Navy Pride.
    Why should I do that.
    President Franklin Roosevelt eulogized a fallen American Soldier by saying, “He stands in the unbroken line of patriots who have dared to die [that] freedom might live, and grow, and increase its blessings. Freedom lives, and through it he lives--in a way that humbles the undertakings of most men."

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    General General Mattis was touring a training exercise that my unit was involved in and he stopped by my squad. He wanted to give some enlisted Marines a chance to ask him a question. I asked him about the Iraqi police and he noticed I wasn't wearing any rank.

    "Are you a private?"

    *I look down at my blouse where my rank should be*

    "Oh! No, sir, I'm a lance corporal. I don't wear my rank when I train because my flak pushes it into my collar bones."

    *He looks somewhat puzzled, then grins slightly*

    "Huh. Okay, well to answer your question..."
    I was under the impression that Mattis was pretty well liked by Marines?

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    I was under the impression that Mattis was pretty well liked by Marines?
    Damn straight.

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