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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

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    You haven't a clue but, you are entitled to your opinion.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Too bad, but bigotry is outdated and it's time for the military to grow up and join the human race.
    Not likely considering what the military does, joining the human race will have to be put on hold until ones enlistment is done.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    I have more than you think
    and what would that entail?

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    and what would that entail?
    You figure it out.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    This is bs. It also is not true. I discovered a guy who I worked very closely with was gay when I sat next to him one day while on Sick Call. Quite an eye opening conversation. He then told me of many others who I was unaware of. NONE of these folks, men and women, ever caused any kind of problem in the slightest. We all acted professionally and allowed each other to have their own space. I always wonder what inner demons people must have that don't allow them to do the same.



    And what about the time BEFORE their gayness is found out? There was no TENSION then. Why all of a sudden would there be TENSION only AFTER they are outted?

    Sorry. Your argument is full of holes.
    I am sure there are situations where things are just peachy but as a whole..it's not good. You being in the military should know this. Individuals incidents or aquaintainces can happen on a good note but be stuck with your peers as a group, diffrerent story.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    You figure it out.
    thanks for answering my question.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Why?

    If they're already serving secretly, then they're already looking at your package openly and you'll think nothing of it. Likewise, they'll also be concealing the fact that they have HIV for as long as possible, thereby exposing the rest of the unit.

    Isn't secrecy wonderful?

    btw, who's that guy watching you take a shower ..LOL
    Next you will demand hate crimes in the military

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Too bad, but bigotry is outdated and it's time for the military to grow up and join the human race.
    Even if people die, or the effectiveness of our combat units are undermined?

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Even if people die, or the effectiveness of our combat units are undermined?
    Why would the effectiveness of our combat units be undermined?

    The vast majority of the military support ending the ban.

    Even Navy Pride....one of the most right-wing people on this board provided this link which shows that the military support ending the ban on gays in the military:


    Servicemembers Legal Defense Network


    Military Attitudes
    73 percent of military personnel are comfortable with lesbians and gays (Zogby International, 2006).
    The younger generations, those who fight America's 21st century wars, largely don't care about whether someone is gay or not-and they do not link job performance with sexual orientation.
    One in four U.S. troops who served in Afghanistan or Iraq knows a member of their unit who is gay (Zogby, 2006).
    The Public Overwhelmingly Supports Lifting the Ban
    Majorities of weekly churchgoers (60 percent), conservatives (58 percent), and Republicans (58 percent) now favor repeal (Gallup, 2009).
    Seventy-five percent of Americans support gays serving openly - up from just 44 percent in 1993 (ABC News/Washington Post, 2008).
    Ban Hurts Military Readiness
    The U.S. must recruit and retain the greatest number of the best and brightest-especially during two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    The military has discharged almost 800 mission-critical troops and at least 59 Arabic and nine Farsi linguists under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in the last five years.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    I am sure there are situations where things are just peachy but as a whole..it's not good. You being in the military should know this. Individuals incidents or aquaintainces can happen on a good note but be stuck with your peers as a group, diffrerent story.
    Waddaya mean? You wouldn't be able to carry on a conversation with "Jim" at the pub because you wouldn't be able to stop thinking about... "Jim"? BTW, I'm a civilian now. There are homophobes in groups of people all over. The military is no different. I wrestled with a gay guy on our high school team. It didn't bother many people too long... after he put you on the mat and you realized if you didn't move you'ld get pinned. Nowadays girls wrestle on high school teams. Last year a girl won the Section 2 title (Class C or D school) in New York State. She was pretty impressive. My son's friend lost to a girl last night. Kids learn fast that she's only after the same thing you are... the win. People can get over all kinds of bigotry. They just have to try.

    This crap has been gotten over everywhere around the military. Now it's the military's turn. I am so impressed that those Generals came out to repeal DADT. It is the most discriminatory law I've ever heard of.
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