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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    No it's not that I have a low opinion, it's that I have attended enough NJP's/court martial to know and not assume. Have your served?
    Like I said before, not much honor in the military. How pathetic is that?

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    I don't know how many times I have heard the expression "Let's let the generals decide this issue". Well, the top general (actually, an admiral - same thing), has spoken. He is not only an Admiral, but is CHAIRMAN of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
    McCain just stated a thousand officers have signed a document that states... don't change it.

    Here is the way I see it -

    1) If someone wants to defend the United States against its enemies, I don't care if he or she is gay, or straight, or whatever. Besides, his or her sexual orientation is none of my damn business,
    Which is why they have don't ask, don't tell. The place is not a social experiment. It is a machine of disciplined destruction of our enemies through brutal force or espionage.

    unless he or she is disrupting other troops by hitting on them. There are rules for that already in the military for straights. They will apply to gays too.
    You go into a sub, or battlefield quarters that are tighter than sardines in a can... not good when tensions are high.

    2) If gays serve in the military, I will also thank them for their service, because I love my country, and I know they do too.
    I'd put them in secretarial positions with women.

    To those who don't like the idea of gays serving in the military, you might as well prepare to accept it. It is going to happen sooner or later, and it is going to be a benefit to our military, rather than a liability.
    It is going to create tensions, it is going to foster political correctness to a sickening degree as it has with women in the military, and it will get more GI's killed. No long term benefits there unless you are a lib and think the place should be a social experiment.

    Don't ask don't tell works... it weeds out the gays that create tension. Don't break what is working. It's not worth one American life.

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    I guess they'll have to install shower curtains now.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Well I can see it now at the Marine Corps Ball, males bring their male dates and women bringing their women dates, yep this will go over like a wet rock. I really don't care what sexual preference people have non of my business really but, when something like this can effect the cohesiveness of a fighting unit, we will have problems.
    What needs to be done is to identify those who harbor such feelings of bigotry and kick them out of the military. They're the ones undermining the cohesiveness of a unit, not gays.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Like I said before, not much honor in the military. How pathetic is that?
    You haven't a clue but, you are entitled to your opinion.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I guess they'll have to install shower curtains now.
    Why?

    If they're already serving secretly, then they're already looking at your package openly and you'll think nothing of it. Likewise, they'll also be concealing the fact that they have HIV for as long as possible, thereby exposing the rest of the unit.

    Isn't secrecy wonderful?

    btw, who's that guy watching you take a shower ..LOL

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    What needs to be done is to identify those who harbor such feelings of bigotry and kick them out of the military. They're the ones undermining the cohesiveness of a unit, not gays.
    Wrong again, you idea's don't wash in the military. This isn't a civilian feel good PC world as everyone would like it to be.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    It is going to create tensions, it is going to foster political correctness to a sickening degree as it has with women in the military, and it will get more GI's killed. No long term benefits there unless you are a lib and think the place should be a social experiment.
    This is bs. It also is not true. I discovered a guy who I worked very closely with was gay when I sat next to him one day while on Sick Call. Quite an eye opening conversation. He then told me of many others who I was unaware of. NONE of these folks, men and women, ever caused any kind of problem in the slightest. We all acted professionally and allowed each other to have their own space. I always wonder what inner demons people must have that don't allow them to do the same.

    Don't ask don't tell works... it weeds out the gays that create tension. Don't break what is working. It's not worth one American life.
    And what about the time BEFORE their gayness is found out? There was no TENSION then. Why all of a sudden would there be TENSION only AFTER they are outted?

    Sorry. Your argument is full of holes.
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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Wrong again, you idea's don't wash in the military. This isn't a civilian feel good PC world as everyone would like it to be.
    Too bad, but bigotry is outdated and it's time for the military to grow up and join the human race.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Why?

    If they're already serving secretly, then they're already looking at your package openly and you'll think nothing of it. Likewise, they'll also be concealing the fact that they have HIV for as long as possible, thereby exposing the rest of the unit.

    Isn't secrecy wonderful?

    btw, who's that guy watching you take a shower ..LOL
    Probably you.
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