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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Well, you know the military doesn't have communal heterosexual showers for just the reason about men not being able to control themselves. Do you think it would be any difference with gays being in the general population now and not having to worry about hiding their desires?
    What??????

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well no, you have a very very low opinion of our service people if you think they would commit murder over something that is none of their business and does not effect them.
    Have you been in the military?


    Gay soldier discharged for being beaten


    A 19-year-old Army private, Kyle Lawson, was physically assaulted and threatened for being gay at the Fort Huachuca Army Base in Arizona. The Army discharged Lawson after a fellow soldier violently beat him.

    Lawson suffered a broken nose in the attack. His attacker—Pvt. Zacharias Pierre—reportedly used an anti-gay epithet during the attack. Lawson was later threatened at knifepoint by another soldier. Lawson’s sexual orientation had been revealed by an acquaintance at an October 2005 battalion party.

    Fearful for his life, Pvt. Lawson began to sleep on a cot in his drill sergeant’s office. Local police originally charged Pierre with felony assault. Police reports confirm that the attack on Lawson was unprovoked. Fort Huachuca officials used military regulations to take control of the case away from the Sierra Vista police. The officials promptly dropped the felony assault charges after the case was successfully transferred to military jurisdiction.

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    Re: Top uniformed officer: Gay ban should be lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well no, you have a very very low opinion of our service people if you think they would commit murder over something that is none of their business and does not effect them.
    No it's not that I have a low opinion, it's that I have attended enough NJP's/court martial to know and not assume. Have your served?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well no, you have a very very low opinion of our service people if you think they would commit murder over something that is none of their business and does not effect them.
    BTw, let me assure you that the military is not free of crime, especially robbery, murder, rape etc., During Vietnam there were many incidents of Fragging but ruled as FF's. I am not saying this is the rule it's far from it, as a whole the military is a well run organization run by dedicated men and women. Non the less being gay will create a rift amongst the enlisted ranks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    No it's not that I have a low opinion, it's that I have attended enough NJP's/court martial to know and not assume. Have your served?
    I served in the 70's.

    There will be a 1 year study by the military then the congress will have hearings. We may see a decision on this in 2 years maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I served in the 70's.

    There will be a 1 year study by the military then the congress will have hearings. We may see a decision on this in 2 years maybe.
    Your right we will see, I as well served in the 70's/80's and you saw what I saw. Perhaps shave changed but knowing enlisted, I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I served in the 70's.

    There will be a 1 year study by the military then the congress will have hearings. We may see a decision on this in 2 years maybe.
    Well I can see it now at the Marine Corps Ball, males bring their male dates and women bringing their women dates, yep this will go over like a wet rock. I really don't care what sexual preference people have non of my business really but, when something like this can effect the cohesiveness of a fighting unit, we will have problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Your right we will see, I as well served in the 70's/80's and you saw what I saw. Perhaps shave changed but knowing enlisted, I don't think so.
    I had a friend in my unit that was gay but he kept it to himself. I like him as a person but disagreed with his being gay.

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