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Palin Blasts Emanuel for Calling Dem Idea 'Retarded'

jallman said:
And I am doing the same thing to you and you know it. We haven't had a brother/sister spat in a long time and we are way overdue.
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Take it back to West Virginia...

;)
 
Redress said:
Every thing gets out these days, and I have commented repeatedly on my thoughts about that.
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That still does not excuse a public official meeting with public officials in an official capacity working for the public from abandoning all professionalism. :shrug:

People, be they republican or democrat, liberal or conservative, should not have to worry about every single thing they say 24 hours a day 365 days a year getting out. I am 100 % consistent on that belief.
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It's not like he said it in his living room. It's not like he said it over lunch with colleagues. It's not like he whispered it at church, or privately to his colleague beside him at a speech. It's not like he said it to his friends while playing a round of golf. It's not like he said it as the punch line to a joke giving a speech at a fundraiser.

He said this to a bunch of public officials, meeting officially in their capacity as public officers while working for the public whom he serves.

The use of the word itself is not an issue. His lack of discretion is what has really been undermined here. Not that it took much considering who we're talking about...
 
jallman said:
It was in an official capacity with public officials by a holder of one of the highest public offices.

And obviously, it wasn't so private that confirmation of his use of that slur didn't get out to everyone in the country.

My point stands.
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This is the reason I disagree with Redress on this point. In a business setting, there is no reason to swear in this manner. I do think that as an official of one of the highest public offices, he should control himself better.

I don't like how I worded my response. I do hold people in high public offices to a higher standard. Nevertheless, I just don't think swearing at any meeting when you are acting in your official capacity is appropriate.
 
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Thats partisanship for the sake of partisanship.

So he said retarded. Big freakin deal. Its just petty to go after him for that.
 
Redress said:
There is no bigotry here. Retarded is a commonly used term to refer to something stupid. He was not being a bigot towards special needs people.
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Yes he was. The only reason it is used to refer to something stupid is because of special needs people! It's just like if he had said "that's so ****ing special needs."
 
aps said:
This is the reason I disagree with Redress on this point. In a business setting, there is no reason to swear in this manner. I do think that as an official of one of the highest public offices, he should control himself better.
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And that's really what it boils down to and the only reason Palin has a point at all in this. I'm sorry she has a retarded baby and all but that doesn't mean she needs to get squeaky about the word retarded.

But she does have a legitimate point about the person in question and his failure to uphold the dignity of his office and America's image.
 
texmaster said:
Thats partisanship for the sake of partisanship.

So he said retarded. Big freakin deal. Its just petty to go after him for that.
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Bull****. I'm a strong Obama supporter. Palin is 100% right about this. It was extremely insulting and inappropriate.
 
misterman said:
Yes he was. The only reason it is used to refer to something stupid is because of special needs people! It's just like if he had said "that's so ****ing special needs."
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That's so gay.
 
jallman said:
And that's really what it boils down to and the only reason Palin has a point at all in this. I'm sorry she has a retarded baby and all but that doesn't mean she needs to get squeaky about the word retarded.

But she does have a legitimate point about the person in question and his failure to uphold the dignity of his office and America's image.
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You're right. He will think twice before he has a rant and uses profanity.
 
aps said:
This is the reason I disagree with Redress on this point. In a business setting, there is no reason to swear in this manner. I do think that as an official of one of the highest public offices, he should control himself better.

I don't like how I worded my response. I do hold people in high public offices to a higher standard. Nevertheless, I just don't think swearing at any meeting when you are acting in your official capacity is appropriate.
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I swear in a business setting fairly frequently. It depends on the situation. What was this meeting like, formal or informal? What was the expectations of those in the meeting?
 
misterman said:
Bull****. I'm a strong Obama supporter. Palin is 100% right about this. It was extremely insulting and inappropriate.
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Thats why its wrong.

Because you think its insulting! :D
 
Redress said:
I swear in a business setting fairly frequently. It depends on the situation. What was this meeting like, formal or informal? What was the expectations of those in the meeting?
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I'm pretty sure it's a legitimate expectation in a business meeting to not be called "****ing retarded" by the person leading the meeting.
 
jallman said:
I'm pretty sure it's a legitimate expectation in a business meeting to not be called "****ing retarded" by the person leading the meeting.
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Again, depends on the meeting and what is happening at the meeting. Hell, I called my CO in the Navy retarded once with no problem(and this at work) because it was acceptable(sorta) under the situation...besides, he had been retarded and nearly injured me.
 
misterman said:
Uh, yeah, sure...what?
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I was kidding.


But in all seriosuness, that kind of reaction is so liberal to be insinuating another meaning than what he meant. He never meant to insult the tardos out there, it was used as a slam nothing more.

I'm not going to play the PC game with his wording when I hate it when his party does it.
 
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Redress said:
Again, depends on the meeting
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No, it doesn't depend on the meeting when it is in a business capacity. There is a certain professionalism that is expected in dealing with your colleagues and peers. Calling them or their thoughts "****ing retarded" does not meet those expectations, your anecdote aside.
 
Redress said:
Again, depends on the meeting and what is happening at the meeting. Hell, I called my CO in the Navy retarded once with no problem(and this at work) because it was acceptable(sorta) under the situation...besides, he had been retarded and nearly injured me.
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No, it's not "acceptable." Something isn't right just because you can get away with it.
 
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