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Palin Blasts Emanuel for Calling Dem Idea 'Retarded'

what's bull to you is self discipline to me and respect for my neighbors

and I'M not even chief of staff

there are a thousand more appropriate expressions mr rahm could/should use to make his point

that he doesn't is sign of his lack of class and shortage of creativity

You should be on the PC police squad.
 
I think people are misreading her intent...she was upset that he compared democrats to retards...an OBVIOUS insult to retards...

Seriously...Ms Palin is a not ready for prime time player and if she had a brain she would lay low for a few years and learn a little bit about the game. She has about 7 minutes left...

Just once I would love someone in the government stand up and say..."you know...I know my words upset some people...and the sad truth is...if that upset you...this is going to blow your mind...Im not sorry I sad it. Im only glad you didnt catch some of the other crap I've been saying. So...in response...kiss my ass!"

At least that would be an honest response...
 
I think people are misreading her intent...she was upset that he compared democrats to retards...an OBVIOUS insult to retards...

Seriously...Ms Palin is a not ready for prime time player and if she had a brain she would lay low for a few years and learn a little bit about the game. She has about 7 minutes left...

Just once I would love someone in the government stand up and say..."you know...I know my words upset some people...and the sad truth is...if that upset you...this is going to blow your mind...Im not sorry I sad it. Im only glad you didnt catch some of the other crap I've been saying. So...in response...kiss my ass!"


At least that would be an honest response...


Sounds like Rahm went the apology route :2razz:


Emanuel to discuss use of 'R-word'
Posted: February 3rd, 2010 10:52 AM ET


(snip ... )

Emanuel, known for his coarse language, apologized for the comment, according to a White House official. He will also meet with Shriver and four other disability advocates at the White House on Wednesday.

"The meeting will be a face-to-face discussion with Rahm Emanuel about the suffering and pain of people with intellectual disabilities that is perpetuated by the use of the terms 'retard' and 'retarded' as well as the damage that can be done by the casual use of the R-word – even if it is not directed toward people with intellectual disabilities," the Special Olympics said in a statement.

more ...

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Emanuel to discuss use of ‘R-word’ - Blogs from CNN.com
 
Sounds like Rahm went the apology route

Of course, what other route is there. As President....or the President's Office, small knife insertions by your political opponents must be expected, Rahm and Barack wear big boy pants, they'll get over it.

Kudos Sarah, makes Rahm look weak and defensive, every point scored critical as we roll into Nov elections.
 
Doesn't bother me

But they would bother some people. These words could get you in trouble, or shunned, or arrested, or banned from this forum. Going around saying words are "just words" is lame. It's not the word that matters, it's the meaning and intent.
 
Not all slurs are created equal.

And great resposne and I applaud you for it. You've actually, like the OP, kept consistant across the board instead of ratioanlizing based on partisan lines.

Says you. Others, right in this thread even, say different.

So does the dictionary.

Wait I'm confused:

re·tard·ed (rĭ-tär'dĭd)
adj.
1. Often Offensive Affected with mental retardation.

2. Occurring or developing later than desired or expected; delayed.

I'm confused. Are you trying to tell us that Rham's exclamation about the Democrats proposal being "****ing Retarded" was really supposed to mean that hte proposal was "****ing developing later than desired or expected"?

or are we to believe his intention was "****ing like a person with mental retardation"

The first doesn't make sense...

The second is definitely a slur, albiet one commonly used, meant to compare an inanimate object with a retarded person to insult based on the stereotype that all retarded people are stupid idiots.

Please, which one of those two definitions was Rham trying to compare the proposal by the Democrats to.

i think this is a mild example of poor taste, very mild. and i think it's kind of silly for palin to make such a big deal out of it. but then again, i think she's kinda silly.

"nigger" and "retarded" do not have the same intention attached.

And, in the staggering opposite of Kand, we have an example of partisan ratioanlization when there's an oppertunity to attack the other side. Nigger-rigged said between a few friends without any intention of being racist, that's horrible and aweful and bad. Retarded stated by the chief of staff of the POTUS with no intention to insult people with mental disabilities, well that's just very very very mild cause you know, Palin has an issue with it and I'd look silly if I was even relatively consistant and still blasting her for it. Is there perhaps a difference between nigger and retarded? I imagine it'll differ if you ask a mentally handicapped person and a black person, and which of those you ask. At the same time, I'd concede the former is generally viewed as worse than the latter, but from the extreme disdain you show for one to the mild, mild, mild view of the other makes me highly question the intellectual honesty of your weighting system.

My position is the same on all. I'm not a fan of political correctness. I don't care too much what people say in their free time and I think INTENT is far more important than what a word is. I think its idiotic and hypocritical for Palin who bitches about political correctness to then harp on this.
 
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I did answer the question. Sorry that you don't think I did. *shrugs shoulders*

I just think you have shown yourself to be highly dishonest in your "analysis" of this issue. I would be willing to bet my right hand that if the phrase I used as an example were used by a republican or had been brought to light by anyone other than Palin, you would be screaming like a howler monkey for the speaker's head.

It's a shame you can be so blinded by your idealogy. It's also laughable that you whine about my supposed lack of objectivity considering how blatantly you just lied and sold out every value you have when it comes to equality and bigotry just to try to score points in a debate. It actually made you look absurd and pretty low. Just sayin'. :shrug:
 
I don't care what they say. I'm only concerned about what they do.

few care about what you care about

few care about me

many are interested in the president and his chief of staff

he OFFENDS millions

for what gain?

he's much better off sticking to the highest road he can perceive and achieve

or not, no skin off my jewish butt
 
You should be on the PC police squad.

no need for police

we're all entitled to our observations

rahm emanuel is a person with very little class
 
I think its idiotic and hypocritical for Palin who bitches about political correctness to then harp on this.

I would agree with all of that up until this point. I think considering some of the things she makes important issues to her, from a personal inspiration, it would be odd if she were silent.

I also don't see any "harping". I see a statement that she made on her facebook page. Basically the equivalent of one blog posting.

How is that "harping" on a subject?
 
I find this highly amusing. First that anybody cares what this idiot says. Second, that a woman who claimed she was pregnant when she claimed her water broke would take 2 flights, for what 8 hours, and then drive past qualified maternity hospitals to a small clinic to supposedly have her baby. That a woman who publicly showed such an abundance of lacking any common sense, or concern for the health of her unborn baby, is offended at anybody's actions is the height of hypocrisy. Amusing as hell tho.
 
I find this highly amusing. First that anybody cares what this idiot says. Second, that a woman who claimed she was pregnant when she claimed her water broke would take 2 flights, for what 8 hours, and then drive past qualified maternity hospitals to a small clinic to supposedly have her baby. That a woman who publicly showed such an abundance of lacking any common sense, or concern for the health of her unborn baby, is offended at anybody's actions is the height of hypocrisy. Amusing as hell tho.

How does any of the choices she made to have her baby back in Alaska, her home, have anything to do with this thread? Other than your glaring motivation to just smear and denigrate without adding anything of value to the topic, that is...

Tell you what...if I create a thread for the PDS crowd to just go to and throw mindless, ranting insults out at Palin...a special playpen for you guys to just go in there and rave and mouthfoam away to your heart's content...can we keep the legitimate Palin threads on point?
 
Sounds like Rahm went the apology route :2razz:

geez...thats silly...didnt the president say he himself bowled like a retard?
 
Yeah and no one really accused him of having any discretion and class either. :2razz:

I think people should respect and follow Obama's example...be a little more thick skinned. When his former crack dealer said that Obama was gay and enagaged in sucking on more than the crackpipe in the back of the state limo, Obama didnt get all offended and demand an apology for gay people...nor did he get all rightous and indignant and insist he wasnt gay...just a crackfiend...
 
I would agree with all of that up until this point. I think considering some of the things she makes important issues to her, from a personal inspiration, it would be odd if she were silent.

I also don't see any "harping". I see a statement that she made on her facebook page. Basically the equivalent of one blog posting.

How is that "harping" on a subject?

Touche, and you are correct sir on the harping. She has not, and its wrong for me to assume she'll follow the same path as she did concerning letterman and other things where she brings it up in interviews, news shows, website, etc.

If this is all she says about it and that's it, I still feel its a bit hypocritical ("I dislike the PC police....unless it has to do with a subject I'm heavily involved in, then its full go in making people be PC!") but light in the scope of hypocrisy if it was one facebook comment and that's it.
 
How does any of the choices she made to have her baby back in Alaska, her home, have anything to do with this thread? Other than your glaring motivation to just smear and denigrate without adding anything of value to the topic, that is...

Well, let's see. The very first word of this thread is "Palin". So, it would make sense that a response to the OP would include something about...ummm... Palin.

Second, the OP is all about this Palin character judging another person for his behavior. Seems to me that her behavior would come into play here to see if she has any credibility in judging anybody. Turns out she doesn't. Her actions when she claimed she was in labor illustrate why she is in no position to judge anyone else, for starters. Sorry if I shone a light on your heroine's hypocrisy.
 
Touche, and you are correct sir on the harping. She has not, and its wrong for me to assume she'll follow the same path as she did concerning letterman and other things where she brings it up in interviews, news shows, website, etc.

If this is all she says about it and that's it, I still feel its a bit hypocritical ("I dislike the PC police....unless it has to do with a subject I'm heavily involved in, then its full go in making people be PC!") but light in the scope of hypocrisy if it was one facebook comment and that's it.

Does that stance still apply if she is led into that topic by a question of the interviewer? :2razz:

Actually, I hope this is all she says about it. I read the page and, while I don't really believe in being all PC either, I do think that there are boundaries when speaking in mixed company. I consider what Rahm said, not to be bigoted or intentionally hurtful, but to be less than appropriate for the venue.

And while this isn't really relevant to the debate, I can just imagine the nasty responses he most likely made toward both Palin and her child behind closed doors after hearing about this. :lol:

That man is a classless thug. He's kinda known for it.
 
Here's what I find funny and may have to research a bit later....

Who in this thread that either Defended or Condemned phases like "He Jewed me down" or "He's being niggardly" or "You got gyped" or "You're an indian-giver" or other such words that are not to uncommon idiomatically and are more often meant as slang as purposefully racist these days and yet are doing the opposite here.

I applaud MyOwnDrum for at least being consistant.

But from what I'm seeing for some....commonly used slang or idioms that they dislike are highly offensive, but aren't for others and vise versa.

If the republicans has been refusing to pass the budget and Emanuel said "They need to stop being so ****ing Niggardly" would that be okay with you? Or what if he refered to the republicans bargaining down of the Healthcare bill to have lesser national coverage as the republicans "****ing jewing them down"? Would some in here be defending them as they defended it in the other thread? Would some be condemning him as they did in the other? Or would partisan lines be shown as people tried to rationalize it away.

Is it possibly because in general jews can speak up for slurs against them, and blacks can speak up for slurs against them, etc their slurs arel ooked at as something you shouldn't say even though its moved beyond purely racist intent...but since often the mentally handicapped can't then its fine to throw their slur around.

(I personally feel the same way as I did in the toher thread. Poor tact if he did it in a crowd, but not necessarly bad. I'd feel different if he said this to the press core rather than apparently somewhere he figured was relatively private)

I just don't see why we have to judge this particular incident in how we would feel if it was someone from the opposing party using some word that people could find offensive.

Based on the facts in this situation, I think Palin is being ridiculous. If Pelosi had made a similar issue with a Republican saying the exact same thing, I would feel exactly the same way.
 

Palin and Political Correctness



Sarah Palin -- who demanded that White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel be fired for using the word "retarded" -- told Glenn Beck just a few weeks ago that she was worried about the United States turning into a country where people couldn't use words that were "politically incorrect."

The discussion takes part around 4:30 into the video clip.

Here's the interview with Glenn Beck:

YouTube- Glenn Beck Interviews Sarah Palin - PART3


Read more: Palin and Political Correctness -- Political Wire

She is such a joke!
 
Well, let's see. The very first word of this thread is "Palin". So, it would make sense that a response to the OP would include something about...ummm... Palin.

Second, the OP is all about this Palin character judging another person for his behavior. Seems to me that her behavior would come into play here to see if she has any credibility in judging anybody. Turns out she doesn't. Her actions when she claimed she was in labor illustrate why she is in no position to judge anyone else, for starters. Sorry if I shone a light on your heroine's hypocrisy.

That's the stupidest thing posted in this thread yet. There was no health risk posed to her or her baby by going home to Alaska unless her contractions were within particular times apart.

This has nothing to do with the thread topic. Further, your little snipe about her being my "heroine" was unnecessary and only served to prove you don't have a legitimte point to add to this topic. Just mindless sputtering and ranting directed at anyone who gets too close to the throes of your tantrum du jour.
 
Based on the facts in this situation, I think Palin is being ridiculous. If Pelosi had made a similar issue with a Republican saying the exact same thing, I would feel exactly the same way.

I doubt it.
 
I think people are misreading her intent...she was upset that he compared democrats to retards...an OBVIOUS insult to retards....

:rofl :rofl
 
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