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Palin Blasts Emanuel for Calling Dem Idea 'Retarded'

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very revealing
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Face it.

If someone on the right called any of the many retarded ideas from the socialist left "retarded", the socialists would be up in arms (not that they believe anyone should have weapons to defend themselves from the socialists, but that's a different bit of socialist hypocrisy) of the "insensivity" of the speaker and they'd lambaste the poor speaker out of public office.
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No they wouldn't, don't be retarded.

How many times a day is that word used on this forum? A lot. So why would I care if Rahm Emanuel or anyone else used it behind closed doors, when a lot of us do exactly the same thing?

Scarecrow Akhbar said:
So **** the liberals if they're upset that Palin, who has a retarded child, speaks out against some flaming libtard who used the word "retarded".

If you friggin' liberals don't like getting caught doing it, quit being the damn Grammar and Idea PC Police attacking everyone else.
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What's the difference between Sarah Palin's mouth and Sarah Palin's vagina? Only 20% of what comes out of her vagina is retarded. :lol:

Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Your hypocrisy stinks, just like your ideas.
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What you imagine "liberals" (whoever that is) would do if a Republican said this is purely your speculation.
 
i would hope our more mature members would find a better way
 
jallman said:
You know, aps, if I was the ONLY person in this thread who defended Palin, I might rethink my stance. But when I am joined by people who didn't vote for her, I'm not concerned about your foolish allegations of my lack of objectivity. What a joke of a comment that is. Look in the mirror when you say that. You're blinded by your undying hatred for Palin. :2wave:

Now, would you like to actually address the post that you were responding to or are we just gonna snipe at each other while you pretend that your appeal to the popularity of your stance is somehow a validation that you are correct in your blatant dishonesty over something as obvious as the disdain you (and I) have over a word that uses "nigger" anything?
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I did answer the question. Sorry that you don't think I did. *shrugs shoulders*
 
MyOwnDrum said:
So, she uses it for political hay.

I'm sick of the word Nazis. I think people ought to quit feeling like victims and get over themselves. No one was talking about her child, 'retarded' has been a part of everyday speech for a long time. That's why we all have to say 'developmentally delayed' now. :rolleyes:
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Oh yeah, well Democrats started it. Now stop bellyaching about it.
 
MyOwnDrum said:
So, she uses it for political hay.

I'm sick of the word Nazis. I think people ought to quit feeling like victims and get over themselves. No one was talking about her child, 'retarded' has been a part of everyday speech for a long time. That's why we all have to say 'developmentally delayed' now. :rolleyes:
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I think you should be punished for using the word Nazi. :cool:
 
Palin needs attention. I think we all know this. Got it.

You know what? I say "retard" all the time. It's not because I am being mean, but it's a word I use. Maybe I shouldn't. I obviously wouldn't use the word in front of someone handicapped. I'm not a jerk. I try and substitute "dip****" for "retard" when I remember, but I don't always.

I have a horrible mouth and swear constantly also. I shouldn't do that either.

I also say the word "fag" a lot, but I don't really have anything against gays.

Then again, I have a gay friend that says "fag" all the time...go figure that one out.
 
Arcana XV said:
Can't really fault her. People with special needs children tend to be sensitive about these things. No biggie.
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Actually, I can. It's just a word. People need to get over this sense of feeling violated every time someone uses a word they don't like. As far as I'm concerned, no words are off limits and those who object should disengage from the source and walk away.

Sticks and stones..
 
hazlnut said:
She is such a friggin' retard.
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Fear is a terrible emotion to base your conclusions. Look how the hate is spewed forth...automatically.

She shoves the knife and twists it politically into the Chief of Staff and has him apologizing and on the defense.

She's brilliant. She's a pit bull.
 
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And do I hear outrage over and stones? Sorry Dems, there's an ol saying

We sleeps in the beds we make.;)
 
Here's what I find funny and may have to research a bit later....

Who in this thread that either Defended or Condemned phases like "He Jewed me down" or "He's being niggardly" or "You got gyped" or "You're an indian-giver" or other such words that are not to uncommon idiomatically and are more often meant as slang as purposefully racist these days and yet are doing the opposite here.

I applaud MyOwnDrum for at least being consistant.

But from what I'm seeing for some....commonly used slang or idioms that they dislike are highly offensive, but aren't for others and vise versa.

If the republicans has been refusing to pass the budget and Emanuel said "They need to stop being so ****ing Niggardly" would that be okay with you? Or what if he refered to the republicans bargaining down of the Healthcare bill to have lesser national coverage as the republicans "****ing jewing them down"? Would some in here be defending them as they defended it in the other thread? Would some be condemning him as they did in the other? Or would partisan lines be shown as people tried to rationalize it away.

Is it possibly because in general jews can speak up for slurs against them, and blacks can speak up for slurs against them, etc their slurs arel ooked at as something you shouldn't say even though its moved beyond purely racist intent...but since often the mentally handicapped can't then its fine to throw their slur around.

(I personally feel the same way as I did in the toher thread. Poor tact if he did it in a crowd, but not necessarly bad. I'd feel different if he said this to the press core rather than apparently somewhere he figured was relatively private)
 

Palin and Political Correctness


Sarah Palin -- who demanded that White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel be fired for using the word "retarded" -- told Glenn Beck just a few weeks ago that she was worried about the United States turning into a country where people couldn't use words that were "politically incorrect."

The discussion takes part around 4:30 into the video clip.

Here's the interview with Glenn Beck:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsgVc0vXNKk&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- Glenn Beck Interviews Sarah Palin - PART3[/ame]


Read more: Palin and Political Correctness -- Political Wire
 
Zyphlin said:
Here's what I find funny and may have to research a bit later....

Who in this thread that either Defended or Condemned phases like "He Jewed me down" or "He's being niggardly" or "You got gyped" or "You're an indian-giver" or other such words that are not to uncommon idiomatically and are more often meant as slang as purposefully racist these days and yet are doing the opposite here.

I applaud MyOwnDrum for at least being consistant.

But from what I'm seeing for some....commonly used slang or idioms that they dislike are highly offensive, but aren't for others and vise versa.

If the republicans has been refusing to pass the budget and Emanuel said "They need to stop being so ****ing Niggardly" would that be okay with you? Or what if he refered to the republicans bargaining down of the Healthcare bill to have lesser national coverage as the republicans "****ing jewing them down"? Would some in here be defending them as they defended it in the other thread? Would some be condemning him as they did in the other? Or would partisan lines be shown as people tried to rationalize it away.

Is it possibly because in general jews can speak up for slurs against them, and blacks can speak up for slurs against them, etc their slurs arel ooked at as something you shouldn't say even though its moved beyond purely racist intent...but since often the mentally handicapped can't then its fine to throw their slur around.

(I personally feel the same way as I did in the toher thread. Poor tact if he did it in a crowd, but not necessarly bad. I'd feel different if he said this to the press core rather than apparently somewhere he figured was relatively private)
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Niggardly is not offensive. Jew and Indian don't have another meaning. Nigger-rig is offensive. Everything is a matter of degree, not every disparaging comment is a racial or ethnic or whatever slur. Simply being disparaging, or not polite, does not make a thing out of bounds.


Palin is a retarded hypocrite for calling for Rahm's firing when she was just condeming political correctness two weeks ago. The fact that one thing IS out of bounds does not make all things out of bounds.
 
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jackalope said:

Palin and Political Correctness


Sarah Palin -- who demanded that White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel be fired for using the word "retarded" -- told Glenn Beck just a few weeks ago that she was worried about the United States turning into a country where people couldn't use words that were "politically incorrect."

The discussion takes part around 4:30 into the video clip.

Here's the interview with Glenn Beck:

YouTube- Glenn Beck Interviews Sarah Palin - PART3


Read more: Palin and Political Correctness -- Political Wire
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What?

It's DIFFERENT when people use words she takes offense to.

Because..well, just BECAUSE.

People keep telling me the woman is not very smart and I keep telling them that's not true, she's got her own kind of smarts. But, if she keeps this up, I may just start changing my mind. :lol::lol:
 
jackalope said:

Palin and Political Correctness


Sarah Palin -- who demanded that White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel be fired for using the word "retarded" -- told Glenn Beck just a few weeks ago that she was worried about the United States turning into a country where people couldn't use words that were "politically incorrect."

The discussion takes part around 4:30 into the video clip.

Here's the interview with Glenn Beck:

YouTube- Glenn Beck Interviews Sarah Palin - PART3


Read more: Palin and Political Correctness -- Political Wire
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I tried to watch that clip, but it was so much like getting my teeth pulled I had to turn it off. The smitten look in Glen's eye was just too much for me to take.
 
Zyphlin said:
Here's what I find funny and may have to research a bit later....

Who in this thread that either Defended or Condemned phases like "He Jewed me down" or "He's being niggardly" or "You got gyped" or "You're an indian-giver" or other such words that are not to uncommon idiomatically and are more often meant as slang as purposefully racist these days and yet are doing the opposite here.

I applaud MyOwnDrum for at least being consistant.

But from what I'm seeing for some....commonly used slang or idioms that they dislike are highly offensive, but aren't for others and vise versa.

If the republicans has been refusing to pass the budget and Emanuel said "They need to stop being so ****ing Niggardly" would that be okay with you? Or what if he refered to the republicans bargaining down of the Healthcare bill to have lesser national coverage as the republicans "****ing jewing them down"? Would some in here be defending them as they defended it in the other thread? Would some be condemning him as they did in the other? Or would partisan lines be shown as people tried to rationalize it away.

Is it possibly because in general jews can speak up for slurs against them, and blacks can speak up for slurs against them, etc their slurs arel ooked at as something you shouldn't say even though its moved beyond purely racist intent...but since often the mentally handicapped can't then its fine to throw their slur around.

(I personally feel the same way as I did in the toher thread. Poor tact if he did it in a crowd, but not necessarly bad. I'd feel different if he said this to the press core rather than apparently somewhere he figured was relatively private)
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Not all slurs are created equal. But with the two specific examples you cited, I wouldn't have a problem. "Niggardly" isn't a slur at all, as its etymology has nothing to do with the word nigger. And I definitely wouldn't have a problem with Rahm Emanuel saying "jewed me down." For one thing, he's Jewish. But as I indicated in the other thread, it's just a mildly offensive phrase that I don't really care much about anyway. "Retarded" barely even registers on my offense-meter. I use the word myself. Now if he had come out and used the N-word on some congressman, that might be a different matter. Although even then, my level of offense would depend on the context, and probably wouldn't be high enough to call for his resignation.

In general, people who get offended over politicians using poorly chosen words (especially behind closed doors) are ****ing retarded.
 
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there's really no excuse for the president and his chief of staff to use language so disparaging to so many americans

shame
 
MyOwnDrum said:
This is dumb. We can't even use the word 'retarded' to describe a mentally retarded person anymore because people use it as slang.
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Except that's not true. It is still an official medical term and is still used, though it is rapidly being abandoned because of the slang use.

And hey, why is it okay to use it as slang in the first place? Will we start using the new term as slang, and then have to come up with yet another one?

I have a child with mental retardation or whatever you want to call it, and I know many adults with it, and believe me, it is VERY offensive and belittling to them.
 
Kandahar said:
Not all slurs are created equal. But with the two specific examples you cited, I wouldn't have a problem. "Niggardly" isn't a slur at all, as its etymology has nothing to do with the word nigger. And I definitely wouldn't have a problem with Rahm Emanuel saying "jewed me down." For one thing, he's Jewish. But as I indicated in the other thread, it's just a mildly offensive phrase that I don't really care much about anyway. "Retarded" barely even registers on my offense-meter. I use the word myself. Now if he had come out and used the N-word on some congressman, that might be a different matter. Although even then, my level of offense would depend on the context, and probably wouldn't be high enough to call for his resignation.

In general, people who get offended over politicians using poorly chosen words (especially behind closed doors) are ****ing retarded.
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You are officially notified that it is indeed highly offensive to those who it refers to. If you continue to use it, it would make you a ****ing asshole.
 
misterman said:
You are officially notified that it is indeed highly offensive to those who it refers to. If you continue to use it, it would make you a ****ing asshole.
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Says you. Others, right in this thread even, say different.

So does the dictionary.
 
Zyphlin said:
But from what I'm seeing for some....commonly used slang or idioms that they dislike are highly offensive, but aren't for others and vise versa.

If the republicans has been refusing to pass the budget and Emanuel said "They need to stop being so ****ing Niggardly" would that be okay with you? Or what if he refered to the republicans bargaining down of the Healthcare bill to have lesser national coverage as the republicans "****ing jewing them down"? Would some in here be defending them as they defended it in the other thread? Would some be condemning him as they did in the other? Or would partisan lines be shown as people tried to rationalize it away.
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Niggardly isn't offensive and has no relation to an offensive term, it just sounds like one.

"Jew down" is obviously offensive and shouldn't be used, and it's a perfect example of why retarded is offensive. It uses real people as an insult.
 
USA-1 said:
The smitten look in Glen's eye was just too much for me to take.
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Did he look like he was gonna cry? 'Cause I'll watch it if he cries.

He's my crybaby hero :mrgreen:
 
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