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Palin Blasts Emanuel for Calling Dem Idea 'Retarded'

That's a load of crap. You can't prove that.

Someone already posted a good example in this thread of Ann Coulter using the term in an insulting way.

HOLY ****! Stop the presses! Ann Coulter was insulting!
 
That's a load of crap. You can't prove that.

Someone already posted a good example in this thread of Ann Coulter using the term in an insulting way.

Ann Coulter is a loud mouthed bitch whom no one is forced to listen to. Ann Coulter is also a pundit who gets paid to mouth off by people who want to hear her mouth off.

She isn't even comparable to Emanuel.
 
And great resposne and I applaud you for it. You've actually, like the OP, kept consistant across the board instead of ratioanlizing based on partisan lines.



Wait I'm confused:



I'm confused. Are you trying to tell us that Rham's exclamation about the Democrats proposal being "****ing Retarded" was really supposed to mean that hte proposal was "****ing developing later than desired or expected"?

or are we to believe his intention was "****ing like a person with mental retardation"

The first doesn't make sense...

The second is definitely a slur, albiet one commonly used, meant to compare an inanimate object with a retarded person to insult based on the stereotype that all retarded people are stupid idiots.

Please, which one of those two definitions was Rham trying to compare the proposal by the Democrats to.



And, in the staggering opposite of Kand, we have an example of partisan ratioanlization when there's an oppertunity to attack the other side. Nigger-rigged said between a few friends without any intention of being racist, that's horrible and aweful and bad. Retarded stated by the chief of staff of the POTUS with no intention to insult people with mental disabilities, well that's just very very very mild cause you know, Palin has an issue with it and I'd look silly if I was even relatively consistant and still blasting her for it. Is there perhaps a difference between nigger and retarded? I imagine it'll differ if you ask a mentally handicapped person and a black person, and which of those you ask. At the same time, I'd concede the former is generally viewed as worse than the latter, but from the extreme disdain you show for one to the mild, mild, mild view of the other makes me highly question the intellectual honesty of your weighting system.

My position is the same on all. I'm not a fan of political correctness. I don't care too much what people say in their free time and I think INTENT is far more important than what a word is. I think its idiotic and hypocritical for Palin who bitches about political correctness to then harp on this.



What are confused about?


re⋅tard
  /rɪˈtɑrd, for 1–3, 5; ˈritɑrd for 4/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ri-tahrd, for 1–3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Show IPA
–verb (used with object)
1. to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.
–verb (used without object)
2. to be delayed.
–noun
3. a slowing down, diminution, or hindrance, as in a machine.
4. Slang: Disparaging.
a. a mentally retarded person.
b. a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard.
5. Automotive, Machinery. an adjustment made in the setting of the distributor of an internal-combustion engine so that the spark for ignition in each cylinder is generated later in the cycle.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/retarded



I'm pretty sure he meant to be both disparaging, and convey their ineffectiveness. He did both.


Seems like your dictionary is not very complete. Do you have a link to your source?
 
HOLY ****! Stop the presses! Ann Coulter was insulting!

It proves that this isn't just liberals, which was my point. Don't be a jerk.
 
Ann Coulter is a loud mouthed bitch whom no one is forced to listen to. Ann Coulter is also a pundit who gets paid to mouth off by people who want to hear her mouth off.

She isn't even comparable to Emanuel.

She's not a liberal though. So this isn't just about liberals. So stop saying it is.
 
How does any of the choices she made to have her baby back in Alaska, her home, have anything to do with this thread? Other than your glaring motivation to just smear and denigrate without adding anything of value to the topic, that is...

Tell you what...if I create a thread for the PDS crowd to just go to and throw mindless, ranting insults out at Palin...a special playpen for you guys to just go in there and rave and mouthfoam away to your heart's content...can we keep the legitimate Palin threads on point?


Okay :mrgreen:. That sounds fair.
 
This kind of reminds me of this:

Vice President Dick Cheney apologized Monday for what his spokeswoman called "an inappropriate attempt at humor" that implied that inbreeding is common among West Virginians, a remark that elicited outrage from the state's senior senator.

Asked during a question-and-answer session at the National Press Club about the fact that a search of his family tree found he is a distant relative of Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic presidential front-runner, Cheney said the two politicians were unlikely to hold a family reunion.

He said that the Cheney line on his father's side of the family dates to 1630's, and a Cheney family line on his mother's side dates to the 1650's.

"So, I had Cheneys on both sides of the family - and we don't even live in West Virginia," Cheney cracked. After pausing for laughter from the crowd, Cheney added, "You can say those things when you're not running for re-election."

Another one of those moments where someone should tell the offended party to "lighten the hell up...what...did did that strike a nerve? No forks in your family tree?"
 
Yeah and no one really accused him of having any discretion and class either. :2razz:



LOL! Now there is something we can agree on !!

:rofl
 
... Based on the facts in this situation, I think Palin is being ridiculous. If Pelosi had made a similar issue with a Republican saying the exact same thing, I would feel exactly the same way.

I doubt it.



I don't. aps is passionate, not partisan. :cool:
 
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I don't. aps is passionate, not partisan. :cool:

No, aps is consummately partisan. Doesn't mean I don't like her, but let's not be dishonest about how deeply her idealogies affect her judgment and objectivity.
 
I can see you feel passionate about this. I am not saying she is wrong. This is her opinion, and she is entitled to it, as are you.

In my Webster's dictionary, it defines retarded as, "Slow or backward in mental or emotional development or in academic achievement."

Wow, what an offensive word to call an idea. :roll:

This, of course, is MY opinion.

As pointed out by someone else in this thread, the word "idiot" is even worse than retarded.



^^^^^^^^^^^^ this :yes:
 
No, aps is consummately partisan. Doesn't mean I don't like her, but let's not be dishonest about how deeply her idealogies affect her judgment and objectivity.


I guess I haven't seen it, as yet. :shrug:
 
When is it acceptable?

When used properly. Such as Bonsai Trees are actually mature trees. They are small as the use of wire and other objects RETARDS their growth.

Notice the term RETARDS or even RETARDED could be used and NOT be a insult. Even when dealing with Mental Issues, Retarded is a proper term. It was never meant to be used as a insult.
 
That's an interesting comment you made. Hmmmm. If I heard my son (or some other family member) being diagnosed with "mental retardation," would I find the word "retard" more offensive as a result? I might.

As an aside, I think Rahm sounded like an asshole in using the terms he did. Come on. You work in the White House. Show some effing class and don't use profanity and yell and scream. I was disappointed when Obama picked him as his COS.


He is a potty mouthed pig. As such, he is not unique in political life. He wasn't speaking in public, it was to a private meeting.
 
I guess I haven't seen it, as yet. :shrug:

Yes you did. Right here in this thread where she denied any offense at a word that used the "n" word in it just to be able to maintain her position against Palin speaking out.

It was kind of pathetic how quickly she sold out any sense of value when it comes to issues of racism and bigotry just to maintain a point. She didn't have to go about it that way to maintain her point either...but it's hard to make those judgment calls when you are prone to knee-jerk partisanship.
 
He is a potty mouthed pig. As such, he is not unique in political life. He wasn't speaking in public, it was to a private meeting.

Is it really a private meeting when it is in an official capacity to our elected public officials?

I just think he lacked any sort of professionalism at all.
 
Another one of those moments where someone should tell the offended party to "lighten the hell up...what...did did that strike a nerve? No forks in your family tree?"

I can't stand Dick Cheney and THAT was hilarious!
 
I guess I haven't seen it, as yet. :shrug:

It's there sometimes, but not all the time. But you make your own assessment on this. :2wave:

I appreciate your defending me against a partisan like jallman. :rofl (jallman, I am yanking your chain.)
 
Is it really a private meeting when it is in an official capacity to our elected public officials?

I just think he lacked any sort of professionalism at all.



I never argued that he was exhibiting professionalism! He's a potty-mouthed pig!
 
It's there sometimes, but not all the time. But you make your own assessment on this. :2wave:

I appreciate your defending me against a partisan like jallman. :rofl (jallman, I am yanking your chain.)

And I am doing the same thing to you and you know it. We haven't had a brother/sister spat in a long time and we are way overdue.
 
I hate Dick Cheney, too. At least we can agree on that today. Reptilian asshole is what he is.


:thumbs: .... yay for consensus! :lol:
 
No, aps is consummately partisan. Doesn't mean I don't like her, but let's not be dishonest about how deeply her idealogies affect her judgment and objectivity.
Yes she it, but in a cute way. :mrgreen:
 
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