• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Palin Blasts Emanuel for Calling Dem Idea 'Retarded'

Says you. Others, right in this thread even, say different.

So does the dictionary.

What, that it's offensive to mentally retarded people?

Yes, says me - and says them. No dictionary can change that, nor anyone on this thread unless they are mentally retarded or have family or friends who are.
 
What, that it's offensive to mentally retarded people?

Yes, says me - and says them. No dictionary can change that, nor anyone on this thread unless they are mentally retarded or have family or friends who are.


They do. Read the thread.
 
says the shrivers

wow, even my classiest friend

i'm surprised


The Shrivers don't speak for me, my friend. :mrgreen:


It ain't polite, but it ain't out of bounds. And, since he wasn't trying to be polite - the word that preceded the 'retarded' makes THAT clear, AND he said it behind closed doors, THE END.


:)
 
except the doors didn't remain closed

white house doors rarely do

rahm needs to grow up
 
They do. Read the thread.

I can't read the thread. I know it will disgust me too much.

You may find a few who aren't offended by it, that's true for any word, but the vast majority are - including the people with mental retardation themselves. That's what really matters. Go ask them.

(And forget politics here - I voted for Obama and I can't stand Palin).
 
Here's what I find funny and may have to research a bit later....

Who in this thread that either Defended or Condemned phases like "He Jewed me down" or "He's being niggardly" or "You got gyped" or "You're an indian-giver" or other such words that are not to uncommon idiomatically and are more often meant as slang as purposefully racist these days and yet are doing the opposite here.

I applaud MyOwnDrum for at least being consistant.

But from what I'm seeing for some....commonly used slang or idioms that they dislike are highly offensive, but aren't for others and vise versa.

If the republicans has been refusing to pass the budget and Emanuel said "They need to stop being so ****ing Niggardly" would that be okay with you? Or what if he refered to the republicans bargaining down of the Healthcare bill to have lesser national coverage as the republicans "****ing jewing them down"? Would some in here be defending them as they defended it in the other thread? Would some be condemning him as they did in the other? Or would partisan lines be shown as people tried to rationalize it away.

Is it possibly because in general jews can speak up for slurs against them, and blacks can speak up for slurs against them, etc their slurs arel ooked at as something you shouldn't say even though its moved beyond purely racist intent...but since often the mentally handicapped can't then its fine to throw their slur around.

(I personally feel the same way as I did in the toher thread. Poor tact if he did it in a crowd, but not necessarly bad. I'd feel different if he said this to the press core rather than apparently somewhere he figured was relatively private)
i think this is a mild example of poor taste, very mild. and i think it's kind of silly for palin to make such a big deal out of it. but then again, i think she's kinda silly.

"nigger" and "retarded" do not have the same intention attached.
 
You may find a few who aren't offended by it, that's true for any word,..

I'm not offended by any word. All words should be allowed. People need to grow thicker skins.
 
except the doors didn't remain closed

white house doors rarely do

rahm needs to grow up


Rahm has a legendary potty mouth. Many politicians do. They talked about that in the Game Changer interviews I saw.


I can't read the thread. I know it will disgust me too much.

You may find a few who aren't offended by it, that's true for any word, but the vast majority are - including the people with mental retardation themselves. That's what really matters. Go ask them.

(And forget politics here - I voted for Obama and I can't stand Palin).


I never said it was political. It's not my experience that most people feel as you do. Most people, in my experience, think it's not polite, it's true. That's about it. I have one cousin who fits the description 'retarded', and a cousin of a cousin. None of my family do not use the word 'retarded', none of my family use the word 'retarded' in reference to these individuals.
 
half of YOU need to grow up

and YOU're not even chief of staff
 
This is idiotic, words evolve, they take on new connotations and new meanings over time.

case and point, my above usage of the word idiot, does anyone find that offensive? If you take offense to the usage of the word retard, then idiot should be even more offensive.

Idiot
2. Psychology. a person of the lowest order in a former classification of mental retardation , having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25.

Idiot | Definition of Idiot at Dictionary.com:

This whole issue is just pure hypocrisy, over an accepted connotation and derivative meaning of the word retarded. Its usage was not even intended as a derogatory slur.

Whining about political correctness one day, then taking offense over a colloquially accepted usage of a word the next day is rather hypocritical IMO.

And Misterman, as to your post above about family of the retarded.. that is I, my brother is mentally retarded, and in fact would fit the definition of idiot I posted above

Making an issue of this is both ****ing retarded and hypocritical. She is using her handicapped child for an excuse to play the victim here, she chose politics, she chose the national stage, don't tell me that she is this thin skinned, it is all a front for some gimmicky political points.
 
Does anyone recall what Palin had to say, or if she said anything at all, about this one?

"I think, on the basis of the recent Supreme Court ruling that we can't execute the retarded, American journalists commit mass murder without facing the ultimate penalty. I think they are retarded." - Ann Coulter
 
Last edited:
More politically correct BS.

what's bull to you is self discipline to me and respect for my neighbors

and I'M not even chief of staff

there are a thousand more appropriate expressions mr rahm could/should use to make his point

that he doesn't is sign of his lack of class and shortage of creativity
 
no, do i sound upset to you?

i have high standards of conduct for myself, my associates and my public servants
 
no, do i sound upset to you?

i have high standards of conduct for myself and my public servants

I don't care what they say. I'm only concerned about what they do.

Remember, it's just a word.
 
Back
Top Bottom