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    Pope Benedict attacks government over Equality Bill

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    This from someone whose minions have sexually assaulted hundreds if not thousands of young children in their care.
    Naturally all in the name of some archaic mumbo jumbo religion.

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Oh yes. We should absolutely force religious institutions to accept anyone regardless of their own beliefs because that's religious freedom!
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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    I'm with the pope on this one. Freedom of religion has to go both ways for it to mean anything. Religion needs to keep the hell out of government, and government needs to keep the hell out of religion.

    Besides, you can't force acceptance on people.
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    If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    At least the pope has some common sense.....

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Oh yes. We should absolutely force religious institutions to accept anyone regardless of their own beliefs because that's religious freedom!
    That should only happen if they're getting tax dollars.

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    That should only happen if they're getting tax dollars.
    So let me get this straight *no pun intended*

    Any organization who receives any tax payer money should be forced to accept any member regardless of their own beliefs or if it goes against the very nature of the organization?

    So in effect, a gay advocacy group that receives any tax payer money should be forced to accept any pro life anti gay person who applies for any job as long as they meet the scholastic qualifications?

    Can you see where this is leading?
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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So let me get this straight *no pun intended*

    Any organization who receives any tax payer money should be forced to accept any member regardless of their own beliefs or if it goes against the very nature of the organization?

    So in effect, a gay advocacy group that receives any tax payer money should be forced to accept any pro life anti gay person who applies for any job as long as they meet the scholastic qualifications?

    Can you see where this is leading?
    Exactly! If they're qualified, you can't reject them because you don't like their religion or sexual orientation. That part is none of your business and if you don't like it, then you have to give up your tax subsidies.

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I'm with the pope on this one.
    Are you now?

    Freedom of religion has to go both ways for it to mean anything. Religion needs to keep the hell out of government, and government needs to keep the hell out of religion.
    Yep and the law does not target religion specifically. It targets discrimination in society as a whole. The only reason "religion" gets possibly hit, is because it is discriminatory as hell. So are you for discrimination? For gay hating, for discrimination against women? Because the Pope is.

    Besides, you can't force acceptance on people.
    Unlike the very church that the Pope represents...a religion that for centuries forced people to accept its rule and its views or face death. And even to this day its backwards views cause death and misery world wide in the poorest places on earth. Great role model there..

    The Pope should go back to his palace and stay there among his gold and silver and jewels eating cake.
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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    This is none of the Pope's business. He's not a British citizen, so he needs to butt out.

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Freedom of religion has to go both ways for it to mean anything. Religion needs to keep the hell out of government, and government needs to keep the hell out of religion.
    In the US, the Constitution doesn't actually say that. It says:
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...
    So we need to keep government out of religion, but it doesn't say to keep religion out of government.

    I am not sure, but it seems possible that the "free exercise" of religion may include being able to discriminate based on your religion's principles.

    I wouldn't disagree. They are a private organization, they can do as they wish.
    Last edited by reefedjib; 02-02-10 at 09:44 AM.

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