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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    teachers? many religions, not just catholic, require morals clauses for teachers.
    The school's hiring practices would be subject to the UK's anti-discrimination laws. Don't like the law, don't set up a school.
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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No it's not, in fact it's very necessary. As an elitist, I say to the best, most qualified goes the spoils. That's a form of discrimination. I most certainly discriminate on the basis of ability.
    Ability is one thing. If a person cannot do a job or doesn't do it as well as the next person. That is fine.
    My problem lies in if the discrimination occurs not on ability but something like race or sexuality.

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Funny thing is the UK has been loosing freedoms so fast, I don't think they even realize how much they have given up at this point.
    Frankly this law is nothing important nor anything to worry about.

    I am more worried over the digital economy bill which would make ISP's spy on citizens on the internet and cut them off if they fileshare

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Freedom of association is as important as freedom of speech. Of course the Pope is correct on this one.

    Funny thing is the UK has been loosing freedoms so fast, I don't think they even realize how much they have given up at this point.

    This law is wrong and I am glad the US, has no law this stupid.
    You have no anti-discrimination laws in the US? Since when?
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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, maybe they don't. Not going to disagree. But I'm not going to use tax dollars as excuse to limit freedom and liberty, to excuse the government....to actually defend the government, when it acts against the rights and liberties of the individual. I don't care if they get the tax dollars, the rights are absolute. Pinning this crap on government money is dangerous. Because all of us get "government money" somehow, in some manner. Do police services come with strings? Roads? Well yes, the federal government blackmails the States into having the 21 years for alcohol law by refusing to allocate my money they took in part to keep and maintain the roads unless the State's comply with the Federal government's will. That's crap. Utter bull****.

    The churches get tax breaks, fine. Maybe we should get rid of them, that's another topic. But the rights are absolute, and must be upheld to their maximum! No ands, ifs, or buts about it.
    No one twists the arms of any faith-based organization and forces them to take tax dollars. So if they don't want to hire gay social workers, then they should provide their services to the community with their own money; not mine.

    Besides, how does this impede their religious freedom? No one is dictating what they should be allowed to believe and preach. I thought Christians were supposed to hate the sin and love the sinner. Not much love coming from any so-called Christian church that says "you can't work for us because you're gay".

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    You have no anti-discrimination laws in the US? Since when?
    I thought US had affirmative action ... :/

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
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    BBC News - Pope Benedict attacks government over Equality Bill

    This from someone whose minions have sexually assaulted hundreds if not thousands of young children in their care.
    Naturally all in the name of some archaic mumbo jumbo religion.
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    I mean, come on people wtf, this isn't hard.

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Ability is one thing. If a person cannot do a job or doesn't do it as well as the next person. That is fine.
    My problem lies in if the discrimination occurs not on ability but something like race or sexuality.
    Yes, I knew you'd be for certain forms of discrimination, that's why I made the comment. To show that your blanket statement against discrimination is wrong. However, on that light, I think it is within the ability of a private company or religion to discriminate in any manner they see fit; so long as they don't actually infringe upon the rights of someone else. That condition is not fulfilled if someone isn't hired because of X. No rights are infringed upon, the job belongs to a private company and it is up to that company to hire who they want. Of course, elitism along only ability means is the best way to go for any company competing in the free market; but it's their choice. And if we don't like it, we don't have to buy their services. It's pretty easy to maintain and control if you just pay attention.
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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    No one twists the arms of any faith-based organization and forces them to take tax dollars. So if they don't want to hire gay social workers, then they should provide their services to the community with their own money; not mine.
    Do not care. The rights are absolute, not the money.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Besides, how does this impede their religious freedom? No one is dictating what they should be allowed to believe and preach. I thought Christians were supposed to hate the sin and love the sinner. Not much love coming from any so-called Christian church that says "you can't work for us because you're gay".
    They are free to practice and express as they want. They are private and can hire whom they want. If they want to only associate and assemble with those of like mind and those whom are in compliance with their religious laws that is their business. If they don't want gay people in their church, they are free to keep them out.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Having read the article, I couldn't see what this is all about. What is the law and what is that law doing?
    Last edited by Jerry; 02-02-10 at 11:26 AM.

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