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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    This the same Pope who heads an organisation which Henry the 8th removed from the country? He ought to be quiet and stay out of it. :/

    The MPs are elected, he is not. This has nothing to do with religious freedom but the wish to have the right to discriminate against Gay people.
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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    What's wrong with discriminating against gay people?

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    What's wrong with discriminating against gay people?
    Discrimination as a whole is unacceptable.
    I don't think an organisation or employer should be allowed to have the ability to reject someone who is perfectly capable of doing the job on the basis of their skin colour, religious beliefs or sexual preference.
    If it doesn't affect the job, it is not anyones business.

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Discrimination as a whole is unacceptable.
    I don't think an organisation or employer should be allowed to have the ability to reject someone who is perfectly capable of doing the job on the basis of their skin colour, religious beliefs or sexual preference.
    If it doesn't affect the job, it is not anyones business.
    I don't disagree, but the point here is that it DOES affect the job.

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    What's wrong with discriminating against gay people?
    Yea!.. It should be legal to discriminate against gays... lets throw Jews, muslims, those pesky African types, and those wide eyed Asians into the mix also. Lets not forget red heads!.. oh and left handers!... that is the mark of the devil after all according to some. How about skinny people..or women.. yea back to the damn kitchen wenches! make my food and bend over when I need to...

    And back to the real world we go..
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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    The pope is right on this one.

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    http://www.equalities.gov.uk/pdf/Equ...%20%283%29.pdf

    MYTH: The Equality Bill will force churches to hire gay priests.

    RESPONSE: Everyone should be protected from discrimination and should have the right to be treated fairly in employment and in other areas of life. The Equality Bill recognises and protects people’s rights to hold and manifest religious belief. It also protects gay men, lesbians and bisexual people from being discriminated against. Where such rights have the potential to come into conflict, the Bill strikes an appropriate balance between them.

    The Equality Bill will not change the existing legal position regarding churches and employment. It clarifies the existing law to ensure a balance is maintained between the rights of people to manifest their religion and the right of employees not to be discriminated against because of a protected characteristic such as sexual orientation.

    In the case of Ministers of Religion and other jobs which exist to promote and represent religion, the Bill recognises that a church may need to impose requirements regarding sexual orientation, sex, marriage and civil partnership or gender reassignment if it is necessary to comply with its teachings or the strongly held beliefs of followers. However, it would not be right to permit such requirements across all jobs within organised religions, such as administrators and accountants, and the Equality Bill makes this clear.
    In other words, this is basically the same as the law already in place, and the only requirement to refrain from discriminating against gays is in secular jobs. Does not sound unreasonable to me.
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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Government should not be telling religion what they should be doing in regards to their religious practices, of which who their priest is is one.

    It amazes me that people who bitch and moan at some on the right who are way overboard in calling for the restrictions and action against the more archaic beliefs of Islam have no issue jumping on the bandwagon of putting restrictiosn and action against Christianity.

    Actually no, it doesn't amaze me, which is even sadder.

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Government should not be telling religion what they should be doing in regards to their religious practices, of which who their priest is is one.

    It amazes me that people who bitch and moan at some on the right who are way overboard in calling for the restrictions and action against the more archaic beliefs of Islam have no issue jumping on the bandwagon of putting restrictiosn and action against Christianity.

    Actually no, it doesn't amaze me, which is even sadder.
    In the case of Ministers of Religion and other jobs which exist to promote and represent religion, the Bill recognises that a church may need to impose requirements regarding sexual orientation, sex, marriage and civil partnership or gender reassignment if it is necessary to comply with its teachings or the strongly held beliefs of followers. However, it would not be right to permit such requirements across all jobs within organised religions, such as administrators and accountants, and the Equality Bill makes this clear
    Muslims will also be answerable to these laws. It's not like it applies only to Christians.
    If a Mosque employer is caught discriminating against a Gay person for the position of an accountant because of their sexuality. The consequences will be the same

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    Re: Pope launches attack on UK equality law

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I don't disagree, but the point here is that it DOES affect the job.
    But it doesn't as Red has pointed out in the above post. The bill recognises exceptions

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