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    Re: Obama Unveils 3.83T Budget with Massive Deficits

    Bankrupt the nation? Yes he can!

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    Re: Obama Unveils 3.83T Budget with Massive Deficits

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    ONLY Congress has the power to tax.

    ONLY Congress has the power to spend.
    This is the traditional budget submitted to run the Executive Branch and fund government, Winnb. Government programs, tax intiatives, Congress can only spend for defense as well, this is Obama's budget, Congress must approve, the President then signs. They do control the pursestrings, but they give budget monies used at the President's discretions, correct?
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    Re: Obama Unveils 3.83T Budget with Massive Deficits

    The $3.83T is an uptick of 3% over the previous budget and 4% over the budget before that. Almost all of the uptick in expenses is interest to service the $4-5T of deficit that Obama's predecessor ran up trying to fund a war and cut taxes at the same time. In fact, almost all of the current national debt originated under the leadership of the last three Republican presidents. Once again it is the democrat that has to shovel out the **** created before him.

    Next time you start a war, raise taxes or don't start the war. Something tells me that if they insisted on a tax to pay for Iraq we never would have been in Iraq, had 1/3 the current deficit.... and you probably would still have a Republican in the White House.

    If conservatives were truly fiscal conservatives they would be democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    If conservatives were truly fiscal conservatives they would be democrats.
    couldn't be, cuz dems are the party of obama

    federal spending is up 28% since 2008

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    Re: Obama Unveils 3.83T Budget with Massive Deficits

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    The $3.83T is an uptick of 3% over the previous budget and 4% over the budget before that. Almost all of the uptick in expenses is interest to service the $4-5T of deficit that Obama's predecessor ran up trying to fund a war and cut taxes at the same time. In fact, almost all of the current national debt originated under the leadership of the last three Republican presidents. Once again it is the democrat that has to shovel out the **** created before him.

    Next time you start a war, raise taxes or don't start the war. Something tells me that if they insisted on a tax to pay for Iraq we never would have been in Iraq, had 1/3 the current deficit.... and you probably would still have a Republican in the White House.

    If conservatives were truly fiscal conservatives they would be democrats.
    You got the Obama blame Bush talking point down pat.
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    Re: Obama Unveils 3.83T Budget with Massive Deficits

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    This is the traditional budget submitted to run the Executive Branch and fund government, Winnb. Government programs, tax intiatives, Congress can only spend for defense as well, this is Obama's budget, Congress must approve, the President then signs. They do control the pursestrings, but they give budget monies used at the President's discretions, correct?
    Yes, the President has a set amount of discretionary spending, but only after Congress authorizes the amount. It's the same for every government agency and department.

    Only Congress can tax and take our money. Only Congress controls who spends it and how much. The President can submit budgets, sign budgets or veto budgets. All tax and spend authority rests with Congress.
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    Re: Obama Unveils 3.83T Budget with Massive Deficits

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Funny how the flaming socialists, with their orgasms over Bush's huge 0.4 Trillion dollar deficits, are sooooo quiet about OBAMA'S 1.5 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT, isn't it?

    Like a rubber crutch.
    Actually little correction, Obama walked into the door with a projected 1.2Trillion Dollar Deficit merely from Bush's policies.

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    Re: Obama Unveils 3.83T Budget with Massive Deficits

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Actually little correction, Obama walked into the door with a projected 1.2Trillion Dollar Deficit merely from Bush's policies.
    How much of the 1.2 trillion dollar deficit that you mention was TARP. How much of TARP was either not spent; spent and repaid; spent in ways not originally intended.

    Does a true debate require intellectual honesty?

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    Re: Obama Unveils 3.83T Budget with Massive Deficits

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    ONLY Congress has the power to tax.

    ONLY Congress has the power to spend.
    I've been trying to tell libs this for years to no avail. It's Bush's fault.
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    Re: Obama Unveils 3.83T Budget with Massive Deficits

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I've been trying to tell libs this for years to no avail. It's Bush's fault.
    Well that's the point Charles Martel is trying to make in reverse. He and many other republicans want to blame Obama for the budget, the deficits and the spending. But if that's true then Bush is also responsible for all of the budgets, deficits, and spending from his 2 terms.

    But it's not true. Congress takes our money, Congress spends our money. Presidents can only agree or disagree.

    I say blame all of them. Congress takes our money, Congress spends our money, and the President approves the taking and the spending. How do any of them escape blame?
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