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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    One hell of a difference between the US President and a local election in one of 50 states of the union....
    Yeah, nice try - spin it as just "a local election". Ignore the fact that it stripped the democrats of the fillibuster proof marjoity in the senate and turned the politics around the nation completely on its head.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Well.. did they cut away to breaking news? No. Did they break away to start the criticism of the speech that was not finished? yes. So it must be they did not like what they were hearing and wanted to "spare" their viewers from more.
    I don't think Fox should have cut the speach - however, other then your "feeling" there isn't any proof that they cut it away for the reason you stated. It's possible, but there are certainly other reasons they may have cut away. It might have been planned that way from the beginning - before the speach even started, which is my guess since they apparently had a guest lined up and ready to go (a congressman).
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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    the single most dramatic moment of his always dramatic sotu was his call to republicans---if anyone has a better approach, let me know, let me know, let me know

    msnbc this morning promo'd they'd be showing this presidential pajama party, but it turns out they're only showing PORTIONS, interspersed with animated commentary from keith, rachel and chrissy

    LOL!

    paul ryan: you raised discretionary spending 84% in your 2010 budget

    obama: the vast majority of govt spending has been adjustments mandated by expansions of medicare, social security and unemployment

    chrissy matthews: the charm, the poetry, the prose, but i think he pulled a fast one, there, ryan who's really smart about these things was talking about the part of the budget that can be controlled and the president tried to shift it to the part that can't be controlled, i think he pulled a fast one

    chrissy, continued: is he trying to stimulate the economy or depress the economy, cuz everyone knows what a spending freeze at times like these will do, he seems to want to say what sounds good at the moment

    jason chaffetz: you said CSPAN, you said no lobbyists, you said you'd go line by line thru health care, you don't return our letters

    obama: the truth of the matter is committees WERE on cspan, my "kick off" was on cspan, the merge was a messy process, it's true, i take responsibility, it's cuz there were so many meetings in so many places, logistically harder than it sounds, get em in one place and film

    obama (continued): earmarks---none in the recovery act, they were in the omnibus (LOL!), i'm not the only guy responsible for this, some earmarks are perfectly good, the problem is no light of day

    continued: i can state unequivocally, my administration been tougher making sure lobbyists do not have influence than any administration that's come before, i've been very consistent

    never mind AIG, SEIU, Phrma

    obama, continued: there have been a handful of waivers...

    marsha blackburn: thankyou for acknowledging republican ideas on health care, pre existing conditions, ending rescission, portability, expanded access, frivolous law suits, buying across state lines, personal savings accounts, reduce bureaucracy, reduce govt

    obama: i've gotten your ideas (how responsible of him), some of your ideas i've embraced, it's not that they're unworkable, the trouble is they're not making things better, my plan is pretty centrist

    i have to go to the experts, he continues, he reads one sentence of the gop agenda mike pence gave him at the start, then complains about lack of specifics

    i have to hold myself accountable, but it can't be all or nothing (tell it to reid)

    to jeb hensarling, the final questioner: i hope there's a question in there somewhere cuz you're using up the time and there's a whole lot of assertions you're making, half of which i disagree with, and i'm just having to stand here

    the poor thing, how does he think his 150 listeners feel when he goes on and on?

    what ensued can only be described as combative, nothing but blaming bush for 5 minutes

    we know, mr president, we know

    we've heard it a million times

    he calls jeb, "jim," 3 times after being corrected

    your stage star sings like roseanne barr

    grab-your-crotch-and-spit politics

    he's committing suicide, WAY TOO MUCH obama, no one can wear like that

    the arrogance, presumption, self involvement, ego, narcissism, napoleonic delusions

    when people look at roseanne barr, they see something, they see pathologies

    obama's starting to show a number of those, as well
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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    obama's truth:

    his health care bill provides "support for states," tell it to every blue governor in the nation who's up in arms over the 200B dollars of unbacked mandates in the form of medicaid expansion

    massachusetts was not aimed at him

    he's not an ideologue

    he doesn't deal with lobbyists, an insult to america's intelligence

    he's been open

    his health care is centrist

    his stimulus created 2M jobs

    republicans are the ones in danger of losing their seats if they follow him (tell it to dorgan, reid, coakley, corzine, deeds, dodd, lincoln, bayh, nelson, specter, bennett, feingold and more than 50 dogs and freshmen in pelosi's place)

    he's being painted as a bolshevik

    he hasn't been able to get his word out

    republicans have offered no alternatives

    meanwhile, his entire agenda is dead

    he's delusional
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinc Route View Post
    ***** That's WHY he did it. He wanted the photo op.
    He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. He wants transparency. This was a perfect example of it. I would prefer to make my own conclusions about his performance versus reading what journalists write.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The GOP took the high road and took Obama up on his offer. I think they scored by having a discussion with Obama. Politically they can say they presented him with alternative policies, and now have a right to block everything he does that is outside their suggestions.
    I thought that the GOP behaved extremely well. When they took their jabs at him (some were warranted), they weren't jerks with him. I give them credit for listening to him and not interrupting him. I didnt' think the GOP looked bad in this scenario. In fact, I thought they looked very good. They showed respect for the presidency but didn't hesitate to call Obama out for things he had promised and had not kept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Harshaw, he was complaining this past year about the republican unwillingness to work with democrats on health care. I don't believe he ever said that republicans had no plans. The problem is, while democrats did put some republican ideas into the bills, republicans where not willing to compromise at all. "The Party of no" is a talking point, and it is not entirely accurate, but it is not entirely inaccurate either. While democrats and Obama have to do better, republicans have to actually show a willingness to not reject out of hand.
    I thought a good point made was about the GOP wanting 100% or even 80% of their ideas, and then when they don't get it, complaining that the President was not being "bipartisan."

    Well, no, that's not how democracy works. Most of the time, each side only gets 50% of what it wants. (Heck, I could argue that the GOP, being only about 41% of the Senate, should be happy with 41% of what they want.)

    I also wonder where all those Republicans who claim that they honestly want health care reform were when they had both Houses and the Presidency.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    Neither is "bipartisanship" crafting your own agenda and inviting the other side to come along, and calling them "partisan" if they don't. It's a process which starts at ground level.
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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    Here's a good article on the event. I would love for this to become a weekly or monthly event!! That would be the most positive development in politics for years.

    Obama in the Republican lions? den: Obama 2, lions 1 / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

    President Obama walked into the lions’ den Friday and came out with limbs still in place. In fact, to many who watched the spectacle, the lions were left sulking and hungry.

    This was the GOP House Issues Conference in Baltimore, to which Obama had been invited as a guest speaker. And to those who watched, it was high political drama – very much like the weekly “Questions to the Prime Minister” sessions in the British House of Commons, an energetic and entertaining debate on policy matters that is unscripted, unrehearsed, and there for all the world to watch on live TV.

    As the Monitor’s Dave Cook reported, the interchange was lively, civil, and substantive.

    Questions were asked respectfully (for the most part), although some questioners took long minutes of speechifying to get there. As in the House of Commons, the questions were blunt and sometimes pointed. But Obama came right back at them, citing chapter and verse from legislation and nonpartisan government reports, appearing to be at his wonkish best.

    “I’m having fun,” he said at one point.

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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The GOP took the high road and took Obama up on his offer. I think they scored by having a discussion with Obama. Politically they can say they presented him with alternative policies, and now have a right to block everything he does that is outside their suggestions.
    And what if they block things that are consistent with their own policy positions?

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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    I also wonder where all those Republicans who claim that they honestly want health care reform were when they had both Houses and the Presidency.
    Right where we are today.

    Patient control and portability, patients bill of rights, driving down costs allowing interstate competition and tort reform, a health care savings account initiative, realizing medicare and medicaid responsibilities, funding medical research, putting patients first and empowering the individual rather than government, supporting health care happening between patient and doctor rather than government and patient.

    You are amazingly unaware as is the thanker of this post of yours, your "wonder" here, is it sincere?
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