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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    no drama obama is morphing into drama queen

    meanwhile, here on earth i'll tell you what's the agenda of our pre pubescent president:

    1. gitmo---it'll never close

    2. health care---stuck with it, which can't move

    3. cap and trade---dead

    4. wall street regulatory reform---dead

    5. ksm---forced to back down

    6. mirandizing mutallab---cost him massachusetts

    7. iran---no policy, no reach out, no personal diplomacy, ahmedinejad daily flips him off

    8. ESCALATION in afghanistan

    9. china---do what you're told

    10. putin---get played by the master puppeteer

    11. islamic terror---bury your head, ostrich like, hope it goes away

    12. international climate accords---LOL!

    13. bank tax---improvised, incoherent, to force banks to lend by punishing them, to get his money back from those who never took any in the first place and others who already paid it all back

    14. debt commission---killed in the senate, 53-47, the day before sotu

    15. spending freeze---pelosi remained seated---pelosi! (LOL!), the jumping jack-in-the-box

    16. offshore oil---LOL!

    17. capital gains---words for a wednesday evening

    18. clean coal---puhleez

    19. yemen---caught COMPLETELY by surprise, STILL no policy, obama announced his partnership with saleh, oh, about 6 hours before he was impolitely repulsed

    20. geithner directing aig to keep secrets from the sec---on substance (a word unfamiliar to the bobby soxers), a scandal

    21. spending---1.9T lifting of the debt ceiling, the day after sotu, the day before the Marcia Brady Tour

    22. takeovers---THIRD bailout of gm, december, ROOFLESS reconstruction of fannie and fred, december

    23. immigration reform---no way, jose

    24. openness---LOL!

    25. blaming---bush, republicans, "politics," people who don't "get it," banks, insurers, investors, lobbyists (LOL!), his own senate, intelligence agents, those who would kill EVERY SINGLE BILL JUST CUZ THEY CAN (LOL!), tv pundits, fox news, media misrepresentation, those who conduct themselves as if on "perpetual campaign..."

    26. personnel---rahm, responsible for health care; napolitano, who said the system worked, then testified to senate she was NOT CONSULTED about the mirandizing of mutallab; holder, accountable for ksm and mutallab, both political fiascos; gibbs, who actually tried to say the president won MA; geithner, nuff said; bernanke, political lightning rod; and the charming, charismatic crooner at the top, bereft of vision, sans policy, relegated to petty political reaction and stagemanship, devoid of substance, reduced to improvisation, prone to daily correction and contradiction...

    land, birdies

    but then, who really needs an agenda when it's all about HIM?
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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    Moving away from the partisan rhetoric and whose coverage was unfair issues, this from the linked article caught my eye:

    House Republicans, by and large, support a far less ambitious overhaul of the health-care system, including measures that would allow insurance to be sold across state lines. Mr. Obama said he would be willing to work with Republicans if they could find ways to compromise while embracing shared goals, such as reducing insurance premiums.

    "I'm game," he said.

    Responded Tennessee Rep. Marsha Blackburn: "Game on."
    I have made no secret that I thought the plans the house and senate have come up with do too much, and a scaled back bill, with some significant improvements to the status quo that both parties could agree on would make me very happy.

    Of course, I find this all too unlikely to happen. I think both sides are thinking politically, and not about what is best. I think democrats feel that if they give too much on health care, it will be viewed as a republican victory, and we cannot have that, and I think republicans feel that if they let any health care bill go through they will find a tough time come November. So I have a nasty feeling what we will have is largely a stalemate this year, with republicans claiming that they are fighting against turning our country socialist, and democrats claiming the republicans are just saying no to anything and everything. And we, the people, get the shaft yet again. This is why the mood of the country is not so much pro-democrat, or pro-republican, or even anti either party, but anti-incumbent. If you are in Washington, you are being viewed as part of the problem right now.
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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Moving away from the partisan rhetoric and whose coverage was unfair issues, this from the linked article caught my eye:



    I have made no secret that I thought the plans the house and senate have come up with do too much, and a scaled back bill, with some significant improvements to the status quo that both parties could agree on would make me very happy.

    Of course, I find this all too unlikely to happen. I think both sides are thinking politically, and not about what is best.
    Yes, I saw that, and I by and large agree with you. But in that exchange was also this:

    THE PRESIDENT: Actually, I've gotten many of your ideas. I've taken a look at them, even before I was handed this. Some of the ideas we have embraced in our package. Some of them are embraced with caveats. So let me give you an example.
    This is a man who has been for many months saying that Republicans were offering nothing but no -- no alternatives, no ideas, no anything except resistance. Now he's saying he's not only listened to the other side, which did have ideas, but they've actually incorporated some of those ideas into the bill.

    I have a hard time taking him at his word for much of this. So, there's very little good faith involved here at all. Not much to build any true bipartisanship -- to come together at square one and hammer out a real bipartisan bill.
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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    Harshaw, he was complaining this past year about the republican unwillingness to work with democrats on health care. I don't believe he ever said that republicans had no plans. The problem is, while democrats did put some republican ideas into the bills, republicans where not willing to compromise at all. "The Party of no" is a talking point, and it is not entirely accurate, but it is not entirely inaccurate either. While democrats and Obama have to do better, republicans have to actually show a willingness to not reject out of hand.
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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    I've heard him say it several times -- along with other prominent Democrats.

    I'm not excusing Republicans here, only noting that the total atmosphere is not one of good faith.
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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    Quote Originally Posted by rblaze09 View Post
    i have heard that fox news cut off the last 20 mins of this debate. Can anyone confirm or disprove this?
    The key question is: Why is Obama's dog and pony show with the republicans aired everywhere while he chooses to meet in secret with the democrats? What does "Mr. Transparency" have to hide?
    Obama lied... Ambassador Stevens died!

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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I watched a lot of the footage and was thrilled with how Obama carried himself. Wow. I have been feeling so blah about his presidency, and loved what I watched.

    He knew his facts. He accepted fault with issues that have gone wrong. He blamed BOTH Democrats and Republicans for the tone in Washington. I didn't like how he interrupted some of the people who were asking him questions, but maybe he was getting defensive. Overall, I thought Obama shined. It was fascinating to watch.
    What facts? Most of his speeches are filled with lies and exaggeration!
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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post

    Come on. None of the other 24 hour networks did that. The most obvious conclusion is that Fox didn't like what they were seeing. You got another explanation that makes better sense? Let's hear it.

    I have no idea why Fox did it, and I wish they hadn't.

    But, out of curiosity, did you have the same criticism of CNN and MSNBC when they aired all/most of Coakley's concession speach, but much smaller parts of Brown's victory speach follolwing the MA election?

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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I have no idea why Fox did it, and I wish they hadn't.
    Well.. did they cut away to breaking news? No. Did they break away to start the criticism of the speech that was not finished? yes. So it must be they did not like what they were hearing and wanted to "spare" their viewers from more.

    But, out of curiosity, did you have the same criticism of CNN and MSNBC when they aired all/most of Coakley's concession speach, but much smaller parts of Brown's victory speach follolwing the MA election?
    One hell of a difference between the US President and a local election in one of 50 states of the union....
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    Re: Obama, Republicans Spar at House GOP Event

    Quote Originally Posted by rebelbuc View Post
    The key question is: Why is Obama's dog and pony show with the republicans aired everywhere while he chooses to meet in secret with the democrats? What does "Mr. Transparency" have to hide?
    It was the Republicans that wanted the whole thing aired.. even though their propaganda station did not. Obama was a guest.

    As for transparency in the Obama White House.. could it be better? you betcha to quote a popular freak on the right.. but it is still a million times better than under Bush.
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