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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I can agree with that. I think that in the end, nuclear power is a great form of energy. People are afraid of it. The main problem is where to put the waste, but that can be solved. But nuclear power really is one of the best forms of power generation we currently have.



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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

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    I vote california, san fran..... or berkely
    Damn, don't you know the best place to begin sterilizing with nuclear waste is on the bank of the Potomac River?

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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Damn, don't you know the best place to begin sterilizing with nuclear waste is on the bank of the Potomac River?




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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I vote california, san fran..... or berkely
    Does this really help keep a high level of debate here?
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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

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    Does this really help keep a high level of debate here?




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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You really should read the Constitution someday.

    Nor did I recall saying the government should loan anyone taxpayer money to run it.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Constitution of the United States
    (1) The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;


    (2) To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

    1) Here, the Constitution explicitly states that Congress has the power to provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States, and to lay taxes in order to do this. It is a broad statement, but clearly, nuclear power plants are covered under this provision, since nuclear power will help provide for the general welfare by helping to wean us off of Mideast Oil.

    2) To borrow money, which the US is doing to enable the completion of nuclear power plants. There is a bonus on this one. Instead of giving the money away, they are loaning it, which means it is to be paid back.

    I am no fan of Obama, but I am not a partisan hack, who is blinded by nothing but hate. Where Obama does good, I will give him credit where credit is due, just as I did for Bush, when I thought he did good. IMHO, putting hackery ahead of what's good for America is, simply, unAmerican. Obama did good here, and kudos to him.

    Finally, to respond directly to your post, it might do you some good to actually read the Constitution yourself sometime. You might learn something.
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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    PRO'S

    1) There is little pollution given out by these types of plants.

    2.) They have more Reliability than other sources of energy.

    3.) Safety is both a pro and a con, depending on which way you see it. I see it as both.


    Con's

    1) Meltdowns'

    They are rare enough in this era of tech that this is not a major con. However, the damages it can do to an area is make it radioactive for years, if it blows. I am thinking about the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster"]Chernobyl disaster[/ame] in this event a nuclear power plant had a meltdown, and it has left the area radioactive for years.


    2.) Radiation, can effect the environment in bad ways. However, we get radiation from everyday objects that want effect us the limit is 200 rems. However, wildlife is not effected by this as we have seen how wildlife is effected, if we go back to the Chernobyl disaster as a reference. The wildlife has made a come back after the disaster.

    3.) Were to put the Waste
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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    1) Meltdowns'

    They are rare enough in this era of tech that this is not a major con. However, the damages it can do to an area is make it radioactive for years, if it blows. I am thinking about the Chernobyl disaster in the a nuclear power plant had a meltdown, and it has left it radioactive for year, and it is still radioactive.
    Well Chernobyl happened pretty much because the Russians disabled all the safety interlocks and pulled out all the carbon rods. Apparently they wanted to stress test the reactor or something and maybe didn't quite understand the implications of uncontrolled nuclear fission. Nuclear power plants now are ridiculously safe.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    2.) Radiation, can effect the environment in bad ways. However, we get radiation from everyday objects that want effect us the limit is 200 rems.
    As you said, there's lots of things which emit radiation. You probably don't want to know what you get for walking outside (in Colorado where I live it's a lot worse because I'm missing about 1 mile of atmosphere). The increase in background would be negligible at worst.

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    3.) Were to put the Waste
    This is a big one, I'd say a salt mine somewhere. If you want to get real tricky, you make a breeder reactor in which you recycle the waste. But the problem with that is the end result is weapons grade plutonium.
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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    What stipulations will Obama put on the money? Will the Government become a shareholder as they are with GM?

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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I 100% support this. Good Job Obama
    Just think how close to energy independece we could be,if instead of spending all that money on "stimulus" we would have spent it on nuclear power.
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