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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Almost...the retail price will be $57K for the regular version, or $65K for a premium model with a 300+ mile range. I think people underestimate how quickly the prices drop for emerging technologies.
    I can buy a used gas-hog SUV for less than $10,000, and the $47,000 price differential, plus the $4,700 tax differential, plus the insurance differential, will buy one HELL of a lot of gasoline, enough so I'm discarding the vehicle before I spend as much money as the cost of one of those battery operated toys you're touting.

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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    It was two different sentences. We have been drilling our oil for over a century and all the rigs in the Gulf prove it. Understand?

    Rigs mean platforms too.

    Do Platforms have anything to do with the extraction of oil? Or are they as pointed out mostly transport, storage, and housing?


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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by pugetsoundwa View Post
    So it would be a win/win then. Even if all vehicles could be electric I am for getting us of foreign oil. I would prefer Solar or hydro or even wind but at this point am willing to conceder Nuclear.
    The word you're avoding is "drill".

    Drilling here, in the US, will get the US off foreign oil.

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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Do Platforms have anything to do with the extraction of oil? Or are they as pointed out mostly transport, storage, and housing?


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    An offshore platform, often referred to as an oil platform or an oil rig, is a large structure used to house workers and machinery needed to drill wells in the ocean bed, extract oil and/or natural gas, process the produced fluids, and ship or pipe them to shore. Depending on the circumstances, the platform may be fixed to the ocean floor, may consist of an artificial island, or may float.

    Most offshore platforms are located on the continental shelf, though with advances in technology and increasing crude oil prices, drilling and production in deeper waters has become both feasible and economically viable. A typical platform may have around thirty wellheads located on the platform and directional drilling allows reservoirs to be accessed at both different depths and at remote positions up to 5 miles (8 kilometers) from the platform.

    Remote subsea wells may also be connected to a platform by flow lines and by umbilical connections; these subsea solutions may consist of single wells or of a manifold centre for multiple wells.


    You decide.
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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by pugetsoundwa View Post
    We can't drill ourselves to independence. I wish it was that simple...
    We should try. We have hundreds of billions of barrels of liquid reserves, and two thosand billion barrels in shale reserves.

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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The word you're avoding is "drill".

    Drilling here, in the US, will get the US off foreign oil.
    I hope you are joking. We can't drill ourselves out of dependancy.

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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    We should try. We have hundreds of billions of barrels of liquid reserves, and two thosand billion barrels in shale reserves.
    Who is we?
    US oil companies have cut back drilling and exploration due to reduced demand and lower prices.
    How do we get them to drill more?


    From 1999 to 2007, drilling permits issued for the development of public lands increased by more than 361 percent. Despite this increase, gasoline prices rose exponentially. At that rate, the United States, which uses about 25 percent of the world's energy, but has only an estimated 2 percent of energy reserves, will never drill its way to a solution.

    Additionally, oil companies have refused to even file for permits to build refineries that could process crude oil, thus keeping supplies of gasoline and heating fuel low and prices — and their profits — high. Furthermore, companies already lease 91.5 million acres of on-land and offshore federal lands; yet only 23.7 million acres are actually used for production. One could be justified in concluding that the industry is simply speculating by stockpiling more federal lands.

    There are ways to affect fuel prices. Although it would have slow and minimal effect on current prices, we could start by compelling oil companies to actually develop the already-leased acres or risk losing their permits or incurring an escalating charge for letting them lie unused. The money collected could be applied to lowering prices for consumers or for research and development of alternative sources of energy. Such a bill is being passed by the New Majority in Congress.
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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Who is we?
    Oh, I forget.

    Democrats live in the US but arent' Americans, so when an American such as myself says "we", the Democrat gets confused.

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    US oil companies have cut back drilling and exploration due to reduced demand and lower prices.
    How do we get them to drill more?
    There have been federal bans on exploration since the 1970's, and the legislation and regulation imposed on drilling makes it a risky venture indeed.

    When I say "we", meaning the Americans, need to drill to stop transferring our wealth to terrorists and socialists, I mean, "we" need to get rid of the onerous burden of legal bull**** entrepreneurs face when trying to do something profitable.

    Exxon sued the government to get a refund on a lease in California because the federal government, via the Air Force, and the state government, and the local municipal government put so many road blocks in the way of drilling that they couldn't even set up a drilling rig.

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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Oh, I forget.

    Democrats live in the US but arent' Americans, so when an American such as myself says "we", the Democrat gets confused.



    There have been federal bans on exploration since the 1970's, and the legislation and regulation imposed on drilling makes it a risky venture indeed.

    When I say "we", meaning the Americans, need to drill to stop transferring our wealth to terrorists and socialists, I mean, "we" need to get rid of the onerous burden of legal bull**** entrepreneurs face when trying to do something profitable.

    Exxon sued the government to get a refund on a lease in California because the federal government, via the Air Force, and the state government, and the local municipal government put so many road blocks in the way of drilling that they couldn't even set up a drilling rig.
    We don't drill. The oil companies drill. Unless you own an oil company it will not be you that drills. The oil companies have cut back drilling since the recession started. They drill as much as they want to maximize their profits.
    Only a fool believes the oil companies have run out of places to drill.
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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I was being serious.

    Unlike you, I've a background as a nuclear power plant operator.

    AND, I think Mecca would be a most excellent place to dump our ****, even our glow in the dark ****.
    I don't care if you're Enrico Fermi. Your above statement is ignorant and makes no sense in a serious discussion on the subject.

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