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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Included in this proposal is a 10% increase in spending on nuclear weapons programs, although Obama said in his state of the union speech that he "seeks a world without them."
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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What an intelligent, well thought-out rebuttal. You completely changed my mind.
    Just saying don't hold your breath for an affordable electric car. Not all can afford 60 thousand dollars. Many can't afford 30 thousand.

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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I will keep my Harley that you can hear coming.
    You don't think it would be possible to come up with some other method to hear you coming? ****, they could design a recording of a harley engine that would be synced to the electric motor. Does that work?

    Big trucks use power and gears to climb mountains. To get an electric motor and batteries to do that may take to much room and have to much weight. It will be a longtime in coming.
    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Just saying don't hold your breath for an affordable electric car. Not all can afford 60 thousand dollars. Many can't afford 30 thousand.
    And as the personal computer has shown, new technologies can get exponentially faster, lighter, more powerful, and cheaper over relatively short periods of time.

    Does the computer you're typing on cost $100,000 and look like this?

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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    ****, they could design a recording of a harley engine that would be synced to the electric motor. Does that work?
    Hahahaha!!! omg! I'm seriously cracking up just picturing this in my mind. It's like that South Park episode...

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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Hahahaha!!! omg! I'm seriously cracking up just picturing this in my mind. It's like that South Park episode...
    It turns out they beat me to it:

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    Damn.
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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Me too, very good, Mr. President, although the idealist in me wants a Constitutional Amendment to go with it...
    what would you want the amendment to say
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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    A hand held calculator was at least $100.00 when it first came out. Now they give them away. What's your point?
    Think about scaling up to something that takes a lot of POWER. Just because we can cheaply build (relatively speaking) low power technology does not mean it will scale up to high power technology. The internet grid was a piece of cake compared to an electric power grid that supports solar, wind, etc.
    Here in AZ, they are about to build a solar facility that requires 3 square miles, to generate only 280 megawatts.
    Solar farm to rise over 3 square miles - Environment- msnbc.com
    The issue is power density. Nuclear has it, even oil has it. Wind and solar do not.
    Obama is right to support loans for nuclear. THe loans will be paid back and the taxpayer will make money on the deal.
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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    They need a lot of work to make them efficient and affordable.
    and it will still take an overnight charge to "gas up"....
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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by ScummyD View Post
    Included in this proposal is a 10% increase in spending on nuclear weapons programs, although Obama said in his state of the union speech that he "seeks a world without them."
    source please?
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    Re: Obama Said to Seek $54 Billion in Nuclear-Power Loans

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    It cost $100K, plus....and I will bet you an apology that the model S won't be for sale at half the price 2 years from now.
    Electric cars at this point, and 2 years from now, are only good for SHORT commutes....
    That's why I'm actually looking forward to the Volt and partially hoping its in the 20-30k range if we're lucky for price.

    40 miles a day is more than enough for my commute up here in Northern VA, with it almost never being more than that. The gas engine used to recharge the battery gets it up to 500+ miles I believe which would be more than enough to get me to my parents house and back.

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    I will keep my Harley that you can hear coming.



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