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    Re: Verdict reached in Kan. abortion slaying trial

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    Guess you're right. It's not really murder if you're doing it for your God, I suppose. (Where have I heard that before?)
    How true this is.

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    Re: Verdict reached in Kan. abortion slaying trial

    Roeder is a murderer. Let me be clear about that. He deserves to die in prison.

    But if Roeder truly believed Doctor Tiller was murdering babies, then Roeder did exactly what he should have done. He stopped him.

    For all of you other pro-lifers who believe abortion is murder, why aren't you out there killing abortion doctors? If you pro-lifers really believe babies are being murdered you should be doing everything in your power to stop abortion doctors. Including killing them.

    Anything less is cowardice.
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    Re: Verdict reached in Kan. abortion slaying trial

    Hey folks, I want to make one point quickly. While Roeder might have had a religious motivation, he is not representative of most christians, not even the most fundamental of them. Let's please not turn this into an excuse to bash christians or their beliefs.
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    Re: Verdict reached in Kan. abortion slaying trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Roeder is a murderer. Let me be clear about that. He deserves to die in prison.

    But if Roeder truly believed Doctor Tiller was murdering babies, then Roeder did exactly what he should have done. He stopped him.

    For all of you other pro-lifers who believe abortion is murder, why aren't you out there killing abortion doctors? If you pro-lifers really believe babies are being murdered you should be doing everything in your power to stop abortion doctors. Including killing them.

    Anything less is cowardice.


    Can anyone take this type of posting as genuine, or honest in debate? I sure don't.


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    Re: Verdict reached in Kan. abortion slaying trial

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Can anyone take this type of posting as genuine, or honest in debate? I sure don't.


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    Why not? Do you believe abortion doctors commit the act of murder when they perform an abortion?

    If you answer yes to that question, then why aren't you trying to use any means necessary to stop abortion doctors?

    If I believed that someone in my town was going around killing babies, while the police sat on their hands and politicians looked the other way, I would find that "baby killer" and use as much force as needed to stop them.

    So which is it? Do you believe abortion doctors commit murder? Or do the pro-lifers just like calling abortion doctors "baby killers" because it makes'em sound so evil?
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    Re: Verdict reached in Kan. abortion slaying trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Roeder is a murderer. Let me be clear about that. He deserves to die in prison.

    But if Roeder truly believed Doctor Tiller was murdering babies, then Roeder did exactly what he should have done. He stopped him.

    For all of you other pro-lifers who believe abortion is murder, why aren't you out there killing abortion doctors? If you pro-lifers really believe babies are being murdered you should be doing everything in your power to stop abortion doctors. Including killing them.

    Anything less is cowardice.
    It's obvious that you think you've proved some point, but for said point to make any sense, you'd have to show where the bible says "if a neighbor commits an act of murder, you should take it upon yourself to shoot him in the face without trial."
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    Re: Verdict reached in Kan. abortion slaying trial

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It's obvious that you think you've proved some point, but for said point to make any sense, you'd have to show where the bible says "if a neighbor commits an act of murder, you should take it upon yourself to shoot him in the face without trial."
    My only point is to show that abortion doctors are not murderers. Neither are women who have abortions. Therefore calling abortion doctors "baby killers" or "murderers" is nothing more than hyperbole and a hyper-partisan attack.

    And I don't need to prove anything in the bible. We are a nation of laws. The bible is not relevant to my point. Under the laws of the US you are allowed to defend your life via the use of deadly force. You can always use deadly force to defend yourself or the life of another human being. For example:

    Scott Roeder truly believed Doctor Tiller was murdering babies. So Roeder did what he thought was right; he murdered Doctor Tiller to stop the murder of babies.
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    Re: Verdict reached in Kan. abortion slaying trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    My only point is to show that abortion doctors are not murderers. Neither are women who have abortions. Therefore calling abortion doctors "baby killers" or "murderers" is nothing more than hyperbole and a hyper-partisan attack.

    And I don't need to prove anything in the bible. We are a nation of laws. The bible is not relevant to my point. Under the laws of the US you are allowed to defend your life via the use of deadly force. You can always use deadly force to defend yourself or the life of another human being. For example:

    Scott Roeder truly believed Doctor Tiller was murdering babies. So Roeder did what he thought was right; he murdered Doctor Tiller to stop the murder of babies.
    Except nothing about your post showed any of that.

    Let's pretend that I think abortionists are committing murder. Nothing in the bible gives me a right to kill them myself. So when you said:

    But if Roeder truly believed Doctor Tiller was murdering babies, then Roeder did exactly what he should have done.
    If you pro-lifers really believe babies are being murdered you should be doing everything in your power to stop abortion doctors. Including killing them.

    Anything less is cowardice.
    You were wrong.
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    Re: Verdict reached in Kan. abortion slaying trial

    True enough, NYC.

    The coercive power of the state is behind abortion. The only way to stop such a thing would be to abolish the state. It's not as simple as just going around and killing abortion doctors.

    By the way, I'm pro-choice, just in case anyone was thinking of labeling me...

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    Re: Verdict reached in Kan. abortion slaying trial

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Except nothing about your post showed any of that.

    Let's pretend that I think abortionists are committing murder. Nothing in the bible gives me a right to kill them myself. So when you said:





    You were wrong.
    No I'm not. If a person believes abortion is murder, and I have heard many people on the pro-life side make that very claim, then those people should be doing everything in their power to stop those murders.

    I don't know how else to explain it.

    The laws of the US allow a person to commit justifiable homicide. Self defense falls under those laws.

    If there were a person on my street going around killing babies and the police or government refused to do anything to stop him, then I would.
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