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    Re: White House orders Justice Department to look for other places to hold 9/11 terro

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    First, regardless of what you think of the merits of the Iraq War, it is indisputable that those expenditures were accompanied by results. In contrast, the expenditure of this $400m would have no different result than if the individuals were tried in military court or even kept indefinitely.
    That's a matter of opinion. The results weren't worth the waste of life and money incurred.

    Bottom line is that you guys just don't want a trial, so you're looking for any excuse not to have one. Money should be least of your worries considering the trillions already wasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Second, the proposal to declare war on Iraq did not have an alternate proposal that would have yielded identical results for one half or one quarter of the cost. In contrast, these trials could be moved to alternate locations and save a large portion of money without losing one benefit.
    Not going to war was a zero cost option. But such an option violates the sensibilities of the war mongers who feel the US should be in a constant state of war.

    It would've been cheaper if Bush would've tried these guys while he was still in office instead of wasting tax dollars fighting it.

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    Re: White House orders Justice Department to look for other places to hold 9/11 terro

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    No problem with that, as long as we leave the expense out of it. I don't want to hear talk about how expensive these trials will be
    tell it to schumer, bloomberg, gillibrand...

    tell it to obama

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    Re: White House orders Justice Department to look for other places to hold 9/11 terro

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    No problem with that, as long as we leave the expense out of it. I don't want to hear talk about how expensive these trials will be when we've already wasted trillions of dollars on this so-call war on terrorism. Trials are part and parcel with this "war".
    I won't ignore the costs of this trial simply because you take issue with the war in Iraq. Moreover, you haven't provided any sort of justification for this trial. I maintain that it is not necessary, and that we would be legally and morally justified in summarily executing him, as he is a known terrorist.

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    Re: White House orders Justice Department to look for other places to hold 9/11 terro

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    tell it to schumer, bloomberg, gillibrand...

    tell it to obama
    They'll do what they'll do.

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    Re: White House orders Justice Department to look for other places to hold 9/11 terro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I won't ignore the costs of this trial simply because you take issue with the war in Iraq. Moreover, you haven't provided any sort of justification for this trial. I maintain that it is not necessary, and that we would be legally and morally justified in summarily executing him, as he is a known terrorist.
    Then don't ignore them. I really don't care.

    As to what's legal vs what's moral, that boils down to a matter of opinion. It was once legal to own slaves. Was it moral? For some, yes; for others, no.

    It may or may not be legal to keep these guys locked up indefinitely without a trial. That I don't know. But for me, it's immoral to keep anyone locked up without a trial.

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    Re: White House orders Justice Department to look for other places to hold 9/11 terro

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Then don't ignore them. I really don't care.

    As to what's legal vs what's moral, that boils down to a matter of opinion. It was once legal to own slaves. Was it moral? For some, yes; for others, no.

    It may or may not be legal to keep these guys locked up indefinitely without a trial. That I don't know. But for me, it's immoral to keep anyone locked up without a trial.
    How come someone will always turn a thread into a discussion about slavery?
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    Re: White House orders Justice Department to look for other places to hold 9/11 terro

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    How come someone will always turn a thread into a discussion about slavery?
    Because it's a valid example of relevancy.

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    Re: White House orders Justice Department to look for other places to hold 9/11 terro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    So, we can't look at the situation based upon its merits alone? We must compare and contrast it to whatever policy best highlights the hypocrisy of some unspecified group of people?

    Seems needlessly convoluted...
    The rabnot needs convolution, the merits argument is a complete disaster, hence, Obama's latest flip flop.
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    Re: White House orders Justice Department to look for other places to hold 9/11 terro

    obama's a loser

    he's stuck with all the political pain that comes with moving ksm to manhattan on the one hand without a penny of gain on the other

    typical

    he's the most incompetent politician at the national level america has ever seen

    he can't see two moves ahead

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