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    Re: Australian soldier sentenced to hang in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeey View Post
    If the Australian soldier was America would he still Hang,i dont think so,the American goverment would have not let this happen,and i quite agree.
    Not to one of our soldiers, no. And if this guy was an Australian soldier, chances are he wouldn't be hanged either. But he was a mercenary for a US mercenary company, and they don't get the same protections as actual military service men. Mercenaries are mercenaries and they should know the score. They're basically a form of government sanctioned pirate, and pirates sometimes die violent deaths.
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    Re: Australian soldier sentenced to hang in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Not to one of our soldiers, no. And if this guy was an Australian soldier, chances are he wouldn't be hanged either. But he was a mercenary for a US mercenary company, and they don't get the same protections as actual military service men. Mercenaries are mercenaries and they should know the score. They're basically a form of government sanctioned pirate, and pirates sometimes die violent deaths.
    They don't get the same protections as they used to in Iraq under the previous administration. Blackwater running amok killed that golden goose.
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    Re: Australian soldier sentenced to hang in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    They don't get the same protections as they used to in Iraq under the previous administration. Blackwater running amok killed that golden goose.
    Well I think the real point is that we shouldn't use mercenaries. We use them because we want to get around rules and restrictions; but those rules and restrictions are mostly there for a reason. We use these private merc sources (and even though Blackwater ****ed up some ****, we still use many mercs) to free us from the restrictions of war. They are nothing more than violent thugs hired on to kill. Mercenaries, pirates...same lot. While the US Congress can issue letters of reprisal, we should be somewhat careful in how we use it (and something tells me, these guys are not authorized under such a letter). It sucks for this merc, I really don't agree with the death penalty at all; but I guess it's the whole "live by the sword, die by the sword" sort of thing.
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    Re: Australian soldier sentenced to hang in Afghanistan

    As far as I know, the UCMJ still authorizes hanging as punishment for certain crimes, so saying that he wouldn't be hung if he was an American soldier isn't necessarily true.

    So a murderer gets hung, who cares?

    We're supposed to have higher standards than the Taliban and the Australians, too.

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    Re: Australian soldier sentenced to hang in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    As far as I know, the UCMJ still authorizes hanging as punishment for certain crimes, so saying that he wouldn't be hung if he was an American soldier isn't necessarily true.

    So a murderer gets hung, who cares?

    We're supposed to have higher standards than the Taliban and the Australians, too.
    Why would you have higher standards than the Aussies?
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    Re: Australian soldier sentenced to hang in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentM View Post
    Why would you have higher standards than the Aussies?
    Because we're super ****ing awesome, that's why! Who else could bring democracy and freedom to the world!

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    Re: Australian soldier sentenced to hang in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeey View Post
    If the Australian soldier mercenary was America would he still Hang,i dont think so,the American goverment would have not let this happen,and i quite agree.

    many American soldiers has lost there lives for defending your country,and i hope you will defend Australian soldier mercenary,there must be something else that made him do that.

    dont let that happen.

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    Re: Australian soldier sentenced to hang in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    No, he wouldn't have. Langdon should have joined the military, instead of a mercenary outfit like "The Four Horsemen". But he made his decision, to go civilian, and also to commit murder, and now he will suffer the consequences for his bad decisions.
    Most of those mercenaries are former military. In fact, military experience is a prerequisite to being hired by such a company.

    Honestly, I do not believe the Afghans (or any Islamic country) is capable of conducting a fair, impartial, trial... especially where non-citizen is involved.

    That being said ... I do not like the idea of coalition soliders being subject to the kangaroo courts of a silly islamic theocracy.

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    Re: Australian soldier sentenced to hang in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Most of those mercenaries are former military. In fact, military experience is a prerequisite to being hired by such a company.

    Honestly, I do not believe the Afghans (or any Islamic country) is capable of conducting a fair, impartial, trial... especially where non-citizen is involved.

    That being said ... I do not like the idea of coalition soliders being subject to the kangaroo courts of a silly islamic theocracy.
    At some point sovereignty has to be worth something. It has been the gravitating constant of international relations since primordial times. Completely fair trials are virtually impossible in war time anyway, since there is too much group solidarity one way or another for the outcome to be impartially deliberated.
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    Re: Australian soldier sentenced to hang in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Most of those mercenaries are former military. In fact, military experience is a prerequisite to being hired by such a company.

    Honestly, I do not believe the Afghans (or any Islamic country) is capable of conducting a fair, impartial, trial... especially where non-citizen is involved.

    That being said ... I do not like the idea of coalition soliders being subject to the kangaroo courts of a silly islamic theocracy.
    They might have been former soldiers, but now they are civilians, and answerable to no military chain of command. This is the problem. And, as much as you might want to call this a kangaroo court, it does not change the fact that this scumbag committed a murder, and tried to cover it up. He is merely reaping what he sowed. Let the Afghans fry his ass. finally, let's get this straight. He was not a coalition soldier, he was a mercenary.
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